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fiendish_librarian's avatar

I have been a professional librarian for a quarter of a century, and have worked at the two largest universities in Toronto, and the largest law firms on Bay Street. If there is one constant - one and one only - that has occurred throughout that time as a (straight) white male working in an overwhelmingly female, leftist profession (both in academia and to some extent corporate), it is this: whenever I'm hired, I'm always, *always* taken aside by numerous co-workers and told in hushed, forbidden tones: "Thank GOD we finally hired a MAN".

I've seen first-hand what's been sold to the professional, female class in cities like Toronto. It's not pretty. The dating scene for any woman over thirty is Darwinian, dreadful and turgid. And one end result not often discussed is the absolute elimination of men in the disciplines and professions that lead to the surplus of women that's described here: journalism, law, marketing, publishing, academia, business administration and development, design and many roles in the financial industry - along with many related fields - are now almost entirely female-dominated: from 80-90 percent female enrolment in undergrad uni courses up through grad school, to hiring choices by corporations in firms with 100 percent female HR departments, there is a baked-in, anti-male infrastructure in place that will only warp these numbers even further. I've literally never had a male boss in 25 years, and my profession is no longer an outlier.

I can guarantee that every woman in those articles mentioned has a kind, decent man and potential partner in their life that is in front of their face, but that they don't see: a plumber in their building who fixes their drains, the bus driver on their route to work, the electrician and drywaller on the condo construction site they pass by every day, the property manager of the office building they get their Starbucks from, and on an on. Problem is, good enough isn't good enough. And so onto the dating app treadmill they go, where that 10 percent of guys can create electronic harems that the ancient Sheikh's can only dream of. And left behind are thousands of self-deluded women with no partner and no children who wonder why no one at their grocery store speaks English.

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Deana's avatar

"...with 100 percent female HR departments"

This. It's made work life intolerable for men but also women.

I had a former career as a graphic designer/art director and around 2000 when the HR departments came on strong they were filled with Millennial women younger than myself. These women were not knowledgeable about design but were given the authority to judge if I was the right material. My experience and skill didn't matter. They wanted someone younger than me.

Often I would see positions I interviewed for advertised 6 months later. I always suspected the hires didn't work out when the rubber hit the road and managers were left with an inexperienced person who proved to be more trouble than help.

"Human Resources" such a disgusting term.

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Frank's avatar

Back in 2007, at Rose Medical Center in Denver, HR there hired a surgical scrub technician named Kristin Diane Parker, despite KNOWING that Parker had Hepatitis. Turned out that Parker was also a drug addict that stole post-op patient' pain meds, then injected them with saline from her contaminated needles. Parker got 30 years. Nobody in HR ever stood trial.

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Bandit's avatar

Shocking. 🙄 HR never has to pay for anything they do wrong.

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JD Wangler's avatar

It’s called moral hazard

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Bandit's avatar

OR talking bad about you behind your back to managment. No being able to stand up for yourself.

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Randal's avatar

HR departments are a drain on any organization. Completely useless and completely unnecessary whether staffed with females or males or...?

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Unapologetically Me's avatar

Such!

Did you hear why Tyler Fischer is no longer seen on Gutfeld?

https://youtu.be/PWz8hIPojuU

(Be sure to read the comments...)

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Pinebeetle's avatar

Good video, Tyler Fischer is a funny comedian, too bad he was shafted by Fox/Gutfeld

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NY Nanny's avatar

LOVE your comment. Wish I could give it 10 hearts/likes.

As a female of the species, a wife, mother and grandmother I can't bear the way men are treated these days. Luckily my son is married to an incredible young woman who is rather old fashioned and a stay at home mom. My two sons-in-law are great guys and I love them dearly. All of these men are family oriented and they adore their wives and kids.

Here's the problem- while I am a total MAGA conservative, all of my family members that I speak of are liberal Dems. UGH!

I keep telling myself- judge them by their actions, not by their words.

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Debi Lutman's avatar

Praying 🙏. Do you just decide to leave the room or join in the conversations revolving around the absurdity, hoping you’ll see the light come on?

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Frank's avatar

There is a public library nearby, that allows same-day reservations for their reading rooms. However, the staff only rarely posts notices of reading room reservations on the doors. What often happens is that one of the feminist librarians with an attitude enters the room with a smug grin on her face, and tells the men in the room (if there are only men in the room) that they have to clear out immediately. I complained to library management about this problem, but they just served me a line of crap to excuse that behavior.

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fiendish_librarian's avatar

That doesn't surprise me one bit. Public librarians in Canada and the US have devolved into full-blown Bolshevik commissars, particularly those just starting out. I have little use for that whole section of the profession.

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Chris Gorman's avatar

Librarians are the TV producers of the book world. They are too often uniquely interested in power and control. I work in film and TV; the destruction of that industry is partly due to power hungry women who simply don't care who they hurt. They are unpleasant, selfish drones. They thrive because no one can temper women if they seek to change things on their own terms. They have the emotional blackmail of rape, mysoginy, patriarchy, religious persecution of women, blah blah, blah to control everyone. I experience it in my marriage. I am never, ever, right in any serious complaint I raise and my wife sort of sees that but doesn't really care. It took me a long time to realize that she is not unique in being sort of mean and expecting me to just deal with it. Were I to treat her the same way I would experience her wrath and all of the bullshit claims of what women deal with and how far right I must be would make our home glow orange. It actually isn't worth it after nearly 35 years of being together to get her to see the fallacy she has created and she clearly isn't interested in seeing it herself, so I just shut up. That said, we love each other and have a pretty solid marriage. But it is partly so because I don't tell her what I really think. And it's a two way street; I am cantankerous and opinionated and angry at things I can't change. Yes, she has no easy task in being successfully married to me.

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Chris Gorman's avatar

I should say that my better half is a truly good person and puts up with my angst and overbearing attitude in discussions. But her position which is I think endemic to the arguments of the two sexes is that I research everything and make her position sound dumb. I find that argument very unpersuasive, though of course I might be able to use rhetoric to my advantage given my researches. I only wish she would not refer to the same thought leaders over and over and over. So many smart people sound like angry petulant children when arguing topics such as whether "trans" is an actual thing.

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Elmer's avatar

Librarians are hilarious. Recently I tried donating some of my parent's excellent 70s era coffee table books and the librarian was pretty hostile about them not accepting vintage books. She could have just politely informed me they don't accept them but she had to assert her authority on the matter.

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Unapologetically Me's avatar

A vintage bookstore or flea market would welcome you with open arms.

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JR's avatar

And you can actually discover material that’s interesting and hasn’t been ‘feminized’ by today’s culture.

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Chris Gorman's avatar

. I'm a fan of stopping the conversation and telling woman or man when they get disdainful that I have zero interest in being talked down to and that they should grow up and just say thank you

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Redskelton's avatar

This was by design. Your defense dept. The people supposed to protect you have been hijacked to implement harm. It manifests in every conceivable way. Your compromised structure needs to be killed. It is not doing any good for anyone, ever. It participates in horror and lockdowns, and death and transhuman slavery on the global scale. This Dep. Of Defense is the model for permanent digital prison not the resistance. You have been destroyed by a 58 trillion dollar heist for long that you cannot recognize the prison around you and the constant tightening of the noise around your neck. You have been forced into coersion without any alternatives. You have been fed to believe in lies and celebrate your indoctrination as an enemy to yourself and others with degrees and titles.

Only because so many billionaire poster children of the failed state are obviously frauds and criminals do we have any chance to stop them.

Throw acid in the face of the people who support this.

It is 100 times worse than I know. And perhaps thousands of even millions. We havw been misled for generations to be ruled by dictatorships and to be mind-fucked into compliance. It manifests all around you. But because this open-prison that causes as much harm as possible has winners and losers who drive around and participate-you mistakenly call it a civIization.

It is not. The whole fucking this is anti-human

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Clyde's avatar

I'm inclined to agree that the systematic dehumanization and demoralizing nature of the haves and the have nots in sharp contrast is anti-human, anti-family and their vociferousness is clearly anti-Christ.

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Yukon Dave's avatar

and none of these professional female doctors will marry someone that is below 6 foot tall, and is less educated then them and of course makes less money then them. The ones I see do marry outside that exception, wake up at a latter age and divorce that stay at home dad as a bum.

My older sister went to one of those fabulous, famous and feminist all girl high schools that had Ivy league prices and she was the only one that married, had children and never divorced among her cohort

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Incel Theory's avatar

“The ones I see do marry outside that exception, wake up at a latter age and divorce that stay at home dad as a bum.”

Many “stay at home dads” still expect their wives to do the majority of housework and cooking. Other than that, it’s always advisable for people to marry within their socio-economic class and educational attainment class.

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Yukon Dave's avatar

Of course starting with the 6ft/180cm, we are talking about 5% of all men in the world. 36% of men in the US have a bachelors degree or higher. So that is quite a concentration of requirements super fast to weed out 90% of the women and men from the dance.

Feminist already stop teaching little girls how to cook, so men had to cook or go out. I have not seen a woman that can outcook me since I was in college. Most of the career wives I know have no idea how to cook. My male and female children all know how to cook and we do it as a family without my feminist wife.

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Incel Theory's avatar

"Feminist already stop teaching little girls how to cook"

--- But they continued teaching little boys how to cook? I had not idea it was a "feminist" duty to teach kids how to cook.

"so men had to cook or go out. "

--- What do you mean "had to"? Weren't they already doing that?

"I have not seen a woman that can outcook me since I was in college. "

--- OK..... and?

"My male and female children all know how to cook and we do it as a family without my feminist wife."

--- OK... and? Want a prize or something?

"Of course starting with the 6ft/180cm, we are talking about 5% of all men in the world. 36% of men in the US have a bachelors degree or higher. So that is quite a concentration of requirements super fast to weed out 90% of the women and men from the dance."

--- Do you get out much? Do the public spaces of USA look like anybody is being weeded out? All I see is average (at best) couples.

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Yukon Dave's avatar

Sorry off for the holiday, Happy independence day.

Yes I want a prize or at least a "you go dude". Oh, I also clean as I go. How awesome is that!

And yes it is the job of all parents to teach how to cook but it seems feminist are still shirking the duty. I had to seek help from a man and an awesome grandmother that decided not to burn her bra when her friends were and who appreciated the help in the kitchen.

Sure I get out to watch the dance taking place in public spaces, but the results are not resulting in happy relationships. Its real disheartening to many men that read women will go out with a guy for a free meal, its called a foodie call.

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Incel Theory's avatar

Come now, come now, my friend. You don't really believe that a woman is going to spend 1-3 hours with a man she doesn't like, and add to that the amount of time it takes to get ready to go out, all for a $16.00 entree? Lower tier street hookers make at least double that in an hour.

Foodie calls are fake news.

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Synickel's avatar

Great post. In my administrative career, I was once interviewed and then hired as the head of a marketing and PR department that was all women. The administrator later told me that they had begged him to hire a man and not a woman to run the department. They ended up being the best staff I ever had.

Having watched the PR/marketing profession for 60 years, I seen it evolve from mostly men, til now you will hardly find a man in a department. You can see it in the feminization of all the different communication media, very touchy-feely.

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David Bain's avatar

Many of these jobs are destined to be replaced by AI. Then they will have no husband, no children and no job. If the debt stays on its current course no welfare either.

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Athena's avatar

Soma to the rescue!

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Incel Theory's avatar

"I can guarantee that every woman in those articles mentioned has a kind, decent man and potential partner in their life that is in front of their face, but that they don't see: a plumber in their building who fixes their drains, the bus driver on their route to work, the electrician and drywaller on the condo construction site they pass by every day, the property manager of the office building they get their Starbucks from, and on an on. "

--- But those men are meant for the women in their own socio-economic class and similar education attainment levels.

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James Mowry's avatar

Do you believe that women should only pair with men of their own socio-economic class and similar education attainment levels? If so, why? Explain your answer in detail.

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Incel Theory's avatar

I don't know about "should" but it usually happens that way. Assortative mating is the rule, not the exception.

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Stephen Carter's avatar

There does seem to be a prescribed invisibility of men. And presumably it will only get worse. If western Europe is further down this road, and I think it is, we can glimpse such an emasculated future. But there is also such a thing as gender essentialism. It's like we're far up a dead-end creek that ends in a fetid swamp of depravity ... because male & female are essential principles. I now consciously avoid nuanced conversations with women, ever. It never pans out. In the past 13 months I've had numerous visceral, stimulating, life-changing conversations with men of my era, retired Boomers, on the road. I was in Thailand, living at an inexpensive resort north of Chiang Mai. What came through is the lack of bitterness, and yet their lives had all been constrained, devalued by the culture wars. I've never had such an excellent year of dialogues. It taught me much. The only 'vaccine'-affected place in Asia is Japan. These guys were all Westerners, & the pandemic was a wake-up call. That was usually how conversations began. Sorry for this disorganized reply.

My sense is that my generation (I'm 71), from anywhere in the West, is very aware of exactly what Elizabeth describes here.

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Incel Theory's avatar

" I've had numerous visceral, stimulating, life-changing conversations with men of my era, retired Boomers, on the road. I was in Thailand, living at an inexpensive resort north of Chiang Mai. What came through is the lack of bitterness, and yet their lives had all been constrained, devalued by the culture wars. I've never had such an excellent year of dialogues. "

--- How have their lives become "constrained, devalued by the culture wars" exactly?

And why were they in Thailand? I've heard suspicious things about that demographic of foreign men in that country. Are those rumours and the documentaries true?

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James Mowry's avatar

What suspicious things have you heard? What do the rumours and documentaries say? Are you suggesting that these "suspicious things" and the "rumours and documentaries" invalidate anything these men might have said? If so, why? Please explain in detail.

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Incel Theory's avatar

Answer my questions first. In detail.

Plus, you know as well as everyone else does what Thailand is known for.

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Mrs. Ashe's avatar

Thank you and GOD BLESS YOU for holding fast, and for speaking up.

When, in my younger years, people opined that "the world will be a better place when women rule", I emphatically told them that I grew up in a household of girls. When women rule the world, we m*rder our own children, bite the heads off our husbands, and let the deceiving enemies right into our own households to destroy them.

I would NEVER work a job where a woman was in charge. Those same cruelties are applied towards "underlings" under feminist power and control freakdom. Backstabbing, claw-fighting, passive aggressivism makes for a toxic environment. At least with a man, you know where you stand, and can have a bad disagreement, shake hands and move on.

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C.M. Cardinale's avatar

Brilliant comment.

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Incel Theory's avatar

You make it sound like women want men hired at their jobs so they can date them? But then isn’t dating a co-worker against the rules? Also, class isn’t talked about much in the USA (though it should be) but there is such a thing as a socio-economic class divide, and an education divide as well. People in the same socio-economic class and those with similar educational attainment tend to relate to each other better.

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James Mowry's avatar

No, dating a co-worker isn't necessarily against the rules.

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Incel Theory's avatar

In many places it is. Where it’s not, it probably “should” be.

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Bandit's avatar

And if these women have these men in front of them, what are they supposed to do? They're probably already married. If not, do the women have to make "the first move?" Isn't that antithetical to what these hard women should do? Why don't these men strike up a conversation? At least say hello?

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fiendish_librarian's avatar

Female friends of mine have told me it's the blue-collar types more likely to do just that, just say hello and give it a shot. They haven't gone through the misandrist indoctrination centres that their professionalized male counterparts have, and so there isn't that inherent capitulation to ridiculous social norms that leads to bad outcomes for both sexes. I can't tell you how many times these women say to me, "it's so nice for a guy to actually talk to me for a change!." As opposed to the para-conversations that take place through curated algorithms and doomscrolling that is supposedly substituting for actual human connection.

When you consider that the male: female ratios for app memberships favour women, most men I would imagine are at the "fuck it, might as well try it old school" stage.

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Harland's avatar

"I choose the bear" taught the entire male population that random men are more of a threat to women than wild bears.

That one stuck. I don't approach women in public any more and discourage other men if they mention it.

Nobody had any idea it was that terrifying. I'm so sorry about all the women I used to freak out. I'd just see a girl I liked and walk right up to her, if you can believe that.

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Bandit's avatar

Yes, and being more down to Earth, are more the type of man to have around.

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Unapologetically Me's avatar

"Remember, if the women don't find you handsome..." (Red Green)

https://youtu.be/dI4sIgcZ22o

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Mycroft1325's avatar

What the West is going through now, I went through in Microcosm in the mid 1990's. Back when I believed the lie that Effinism was all about 'equality', I got engaged to a young woman who was an Ardent (there's another word I could use, starts with an 'R', ends with a 'D') Feminist. Over the two years of our relationship, I went from 'Papa Smurf' to 'The most abusive Man she'd ever known.'

How did that happen? Well, in large part, because I valued truth more than her feelings. That's not to say I didn't end up strangling myself, binding myself, boxing myself into as small a profile as possible, so as to avoid offending her. Yet at some point, issues came up I just could not let go, and in her mind, taking a stand and not moving was 'abuse'.

In the aftermath, I did a great deal of research into Feminism, as I sensed it was at the core of the problem. It was not all that shocking to me when I read the book she called her 'Bible' (That's "Secret Survivors" by E. Sue Blume), and discovered that this Author believed that Men are abusive by *Nature*, while Women could not be abusive under *any* circumstances.

Feminism was supremely well-designed to weaponize Women's darker impulses. It has been dominant in our culture so deeply & for so long that many, if not most, of its lies are accepted as culture 'givens'. One of the strongest evidences of the cost of this is that roughly 80% of all divorces today are instigated *by* the Woman.

If the West is going to survive, Feminism needs to be recognized as the Mind-Cancer that it is and dispensed with.

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SpC's avatar

"...(there's another word I could use, starts with an 'R', ends with a 'D')...." Rabid maybe?

Took me years for it to dawn upon me that I've done pretty much the same thing; married her too, we're together, still.

I bought into the 'feminist' philosophy back in my twenties, believed supporting this 'new thing' was something positive. Worked at ignoring the '...Men are abusive by *Nature*, while Women could not be abusive under *any* circumstances' part of it. 50+ years on I can accept that I've made a mistake, would have been better off walking away.

Life lived 'alone' – with a housemate who values her commitment to her latest rescue dog conspicuously more than my honoring a commitment to provide what support I can – takes a toll.

(Good stuff again Elizabeth. Your clarity of thought and expression leaves me amazed.)

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Mycroft1325's avatar

You have my complete sympathies. Even if she doesn't honor your dedication to that commitment, there are those of us out there who definitely do. (For what that's worth.) Though I still grieve that this Woman, who had serious issues, was only hurt more by Feminism, I am glad we never married.

I dodged *that* bullet, only to get hit by another though. I spent the next decade ('97-'07) alone, wondering if that would be it for me, when I stumbled across a young lady & we hit it off. After I vetted her to the point of paranoia, we started dating & eventually, married in late 2008.

Eventually however, starting in 2014, the Cultural Marxism savaging the West infected her, and I went from her, 'Modern Prophet Jerimiah', to a 'Selfish, Betraying, Sexist, Racist, Transphobe, Nazi.' (Despite her admitting I *hadn't* changed since we married.)

I still loved her, but the reverse was not true, so after over 15 years, she finally kicked me to the curb. Now this time, I think I'm *really* done.

To put it in the mythological/fantasy terms I'm fond of-

If you push yourself to where you never thought you could go & are willing to risk it all, you *can* reach the Dragon in its lair, slay it, and rescue your Princess.

However...

IF when you finally reach the Monster, only to find your Princess Languidly laying across the back of the Beast because she fell for the lies it whispered in her ear?

THAT is a fight no Mortal Man can win.

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elizabeth nickson's avatar

Bloody hell.

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Mycroft1325's avatar

Indeed it was. But the worst wasn't what she did to me. It was what she did to herself.

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Stephen Carter's avatar

Yes! It's like leftist ideology can be a kind of demonic incantation that inhabits the being of a formerly innocent, 'good' person. What she did to herself to become such a critic is the worst thing of all.

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Mycroft1325's avatar

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Interesting that you would put it that way. The change in her was *so* dramatic, I'm sure there was more than just omnipresent Ideological Propaganda in play. She walked off into darkness to the cheers of her friends, and I was the only one who knew or cared about the horror she was actually embracing.

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SeeC's avatar

Our ancestors had figured out the recipe: mariage with strong rules to tame women’s behavior and allow for big consequences if they did not.

For this to work, they can’t have « freedom ».

Women are very much like children in that way, if you can’t enforce consequences they’ll push the boundaries into oblivion.

Nowadays we hear all about the patriarchy as if men had been persecuting women just because they felt like it.

The truth is that it was for everyone’s benefits, especially the women, without it, no society that allows them to have confortable lives.

It’s just another cycle of forgetting and relearning I guess…

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Mycroft1325's avatar

1st Timothy 2:14 "Adam wasn’t deceived, but the woman, being deceived, has fallen into disobedience..."

I've seen Christian Theologians tie themselves into knots trying to say that this doesn't apply to Men & Women in General, but it surely does. Whether one believes the Bible to be literal history or not, the precedent was known long, long ago.

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Michael K.'s avatar

It was written specifically addressing men and women. The sin that cast mankind out of 'paradise' was twofold: first, the female wanted to be like God, meaning she not only wanted to rise above her station without merit, she wanted superiority over the male as well.

The second part of the sin was the male capitulating to the female, 'listening to her voice' and obeying her will, EXACTLY AS MODERN WESTERN MEN TO WITH MODERN WOMEN. Simping and cucking, essentially.

Most of the churches, like most theologians, are simps before women. Why would they out themselves by referring honesty to the very word of God that indicts them?

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Mycroft1325's avatar

Sir, you are 100% on point.

You may already know this, but the vast majority of people (including professing Believers) do not-

When the Serpent made his offer to Eve, 'You shall be like God, Knowing Good from Evil.' It was *not* some huge expositional knowledge-dump. (As Cults like the Freemasons, believe.)

The Ancient Hebrew word for, 'Know' was a *Marital* term. As in, a Husband, 'Knowing' his Wife. It literally meant- 'To take Possession of.'

So what the Serpent ACTUALLY said to Eve was- 'You shall be like God, DECIDING what is Good and what is Evil.'

Adam knew what had happened, and, as the Enemy had hoped, put his fear of losing her above his love for God and so, lost them both.

If it weren't for the power of the Holy Spirit, I surely would have made that same choice. I didn't, but I understand it to a depth I never wanted to.

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Incel Theory's avatar

"The truth is that it was for everyone’s benefits, especially the women, without it, no society allows them to have confortable lives."

Those societies are sociopathic.

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Mrs. Ashe's avatar

I ache for your predicament.. remembering that it was Eve who was deceived... and still is.

So many people have wasted so much precious time that could have been spent building loving, nurturing family relationships that last into old age.... What a FRAUD feminism is.

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Mycroft1325's avatar

I appreciated the sympathy, very much. As I said above, I understand *why* Adam made the choice he did, down to the marrow of my bones, but I couldn't follow that path. I couldn't follow her into Darkness, desperately hoping to do something, *anything* she wanted, to, 'Save the Marriage'.

I don't know... perhaps... If Adam had stayed Faithful to God & not let fear conquer him, then, in his Unfallen state he could have participated in Eve's rescue & redepmption. Maybe that's what this is like, on a small scale, of course. Where there's life, there's hope.

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Unapologetically Me's avatar

Dolores Riordan, RIP beautiful lady.

"You can go your own way".

https://youtu.be/Qlw4NohB678

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Incel Theory's avatar

"50+ years on I can accept that I've made a mistake, would have been better off walking away. Life lived 'alone' – with a housemate who values her commitment to her latest rescue dog conspicuously more than my honoring a commitment to provide what support I can – takes a toll."

--- So why stay?

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James Mowry's avatar

Probably because unlike his wife, he felt some sense of obligation to honor his marriage vows. But I agree: he should have canned her ass a long time ago.

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Incel Theory's avatar

He can still leave. I have an idea why he isn't but I'd like to hear from him first.

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Ernie Rockwell's avatar

Only men can be abusive, said her book. Kinda like only whites can be racist. They create arrogant self righteous people with little or no empathy for those outside their tribe.

Another great essay. I always find your commentary worthwhile.

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GabeReal's avatar

My parents divorced when I was 5-6. My brother was less than 3. It deeply affected me, even to this day, and I haven’t really had successful relationships in my life. Still single snd no kids. That was in the 70’s, and my mom has cited feminism as influencing her decision to leave my dad. (Granted he was hard to deal with at times, but he still had a huge heart and wasn’t abusive) I now hate feminism with all my being because I believe it destroyed our nuclear family, and has led me to being unsuccessful in most areas of my life.

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Mycroft1325's avatar

It would not surprise me for a second if this could be said for a sizable portion of people over the decades. It doesn't take much research to find that ruining familes *is* one of the goals of Feminism (under the guise of 'Empowerment', of course.) Suffering like yours will continue, as long as we keep perpetuating Feminism's anti-feminine lies.

“As long as the family and the myth of the family and the myth of maternity and the maternal instinct are not destroyed, women will still be oppressed. ” - Simone de Beauvoir

"Since marriage constitutes slavery for women, it is clear that the women’s movement must concentrate on attacking this institution. Freedom for women cannot be won without the abolition of marriage." - Sheila Cronin

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Roger Beal's avatar

E. Sue Blume's statement is on par with the proclamation from various race hustlers that "persons of colour cannot be racist".

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Chris Gorman's avatar

I agree. But the both of us are in trouble in a world that demands little of us because our needs are easily met. When humans get away from their essential natures and need of God, the whole structure of human kind has to devolve

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Mycroft1325's avatar

Surface needs, if that, and there are many places in the world where that actually isn't true. However, yes, without the Ancient of Days, it will all collapse regardless.

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Rusti's avatar

"...so as to avoid offending her."

Which, of course, was not permissible.

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Science is Political 2.0's avatar

Right on, my friend.

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Bandit's avatar

So, the women that ARE emotionally, mentally, monetarily, and physically abused are supposed to stay with the abusive men, because if they don't it's their own fault they filed for divorce?

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Mycroft1325's avatar

Who said that? No one here. This response refutes nothing. Or are you seriously implying that most (if not all) of these Women are filing *because* they're being abused? That's some pretty specious logic.

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Michael K.'s avatar

This is the emotional trigger that's always trotted out to defend the western matriarchies. Basically, there might be a male somewhere who abuses a female, thus feminism is necessary.

A typically cunning, demonic rationalization. Women love ruling over men, even if that destroys the family and the nation. Her will is omnipotent.

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Mystic William's avatar

Right! You read the comments and fully understood them.

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Bandit's avatar

Well, no matter what they'll be blamed.

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Mystic William's avatar

There are a lot of abusive men. And an equal number of abusive women.

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Dr. K's avatar

In my experience, there are far more abusive women. They just have a more subtle but every bit as harmful/hurtful (maybe even more so) kind of abuse.

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Mystic William's avatar

Female abuse is so often ignored. It is likely higher than male abuse because many of the women don’t recognize it as abuse. They put no curbs on it. This woman is a perfect example. She can feel tough because male abuse…ie if he got up and slapped her down…is harshly punished. She knows he can do nothing. So she gets to be abusive as she likes knowing there are no consequences. Until she slaps the wrong guy and is demolished.

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Mystic William's avatar

Women marrying someone because they have a good career is abusive. Leaving them because they go bankrupt is abusive.

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Michael K.'s avatar

In America, there are twenty abusive women for every abusive man. And 50 years of feminism gave females every institution as a weapon for them.

Feminism is a death cult. Yes, females get to have endless empowerment, including over males, but the cost is destruction of everything good, beautiful, and righteous.

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Sue Kelley's avatar

Being raised with mostly boys and betrayed by female friends early in in life, I never feel into this trap. I played with, fought with and loved makes my whole life. I learned to compete with them not as female vs male but as an equal. I've never once in my life felt lesser as a woman or suffered any loss because I was a woman. Being a nurse for nearly forty years, never once did I feel being a female kept me down. Any condescension from male doctors was not viewed thru the lenses of patriarchy on my part.. they were just plain ol assholes. My best bosses have always been male.... They were straight up no emotional bullshit no mean girl stuff. No problems as long as you did your job

The women ..... Not so much. Back stabbing drama creating vengeful animals in lipstick and fake nails.

I love everything about men and cannot remember a single time I've ever been made to feel lesser for being female. There are differences between us but they are glorious to me and also to the men I have known.

Not saying all men are great or all women are toxic, not at all. Just saying I think you often see what you want to see and attract what you give when it comes to respect. Maybe it didn't start that way but the feminist movement definitely devolved into hatred or replacement at some point. Equal somehow became " I need to dominate you". So glad I missed that boat.

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Curtis's avatar

My ex wife was a retail manager. Of the various departments she managed over time, she said the Cosmetics and Fragrance Department was the very worst! All women, and all vicious. 🤣

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fiendish_librarian's avatar

Worked in retail for a decade during uni, can confirm.

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Science is Political 2.0's avatar

Wow. I did work in all female office.. (medical oncology and hematology).. and I find that comment interesting by your ex wife. I did have a couple good friends there but it was a different and difficult w/ some competition going on in the atmosphere which I did not really pay attention to because most of the women like me had University education and were paid at a higher scale and I could always MOVE ON to another job.

I have worked in retail when I was young.. a boutique, which we also worked on commission.. which is what I think contributed to the "negative attitude".. but I also knew I was College so it was not going to be my life (Tysons Corner, VA). so I could be friendly and make friends. there was something else going on there. OFFICE GAMES AND POLITICS in any job is really a bummer and I don't think it is about the genders of the people involved: I think it about the INDUSTRY and MONEY competition. I am RETIRED and as I look back.. that is what it appears to be to me. :)

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Curtis's avatar

In fairness, there were a lot of other women working there in different departments, but the C&F were the worst. Also, they worked on some type of commission, so there's that.

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Sue Kelley's avatar

Gosh I hate auto correct. I need to remember to check before I hit send.

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shibumi's avatar

Sue, if you click on the three little dots to the far right of your name, you can edit your post.

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Deb's avatar

THIS!!! 👆👆 well said! 👏👏👏 I have never felt lesser or a victim by a man...I always chalked it up to the man being an asshole. Nothing .ore.

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Redskelton's avatar

We are all assholes! What is our SYSTEM doing to us is the question. My grocery stores lease was cancelled not because it could not profit but to starve my community. My local business and hundreds of thousands of others.

Our digital dictatorship is destroying us as PEOPLE and families, and our GAY rights activists know this! You can use black scholars! What you cannot use is the public who has been destroyed by uniform propaganda that is anti-human on every channel including the majority of alternative media. Including A.I. driven mind-control. So few understand psychological conditioning that they fail to realize the enemy has captured their own minds and directs them to harm themselves and others. Americans have lost all autonomy. Armed dog catchers were sent to my door. A health check agent was sent with the police to destroy me. I cannot protect my own family or property in this living hell.

Our people are being killed to the tune of five million persons using our own doctors, nurses, and hospitals. Our immune systems and genetic make-up are being wrecked while social engineers manufacture foreign nationals in the tens of millions to destroy our communities all at the same time! What the fuck do you need to rise and conquer some terrorists implementing hell on Earth at the local level across the entire Continent?

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Kittykat's avatar

I happen to agree with you, we are being conditioned and indoctrinated. Through education, through Hollywood, and online with algorithms. Dissidents are being removed at increasing rates, ensuring the compliant and the enforcers remain in work environments. Immigrants are imported and prioritized to advance into power, laws are enacted to criminalize dissent. Covid was a shock and awe, trauma event, to reshape society. The mind is the battlefield. Scary stuff.

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A.M.'s avatar

Yes, I very much agree. I also feel that with men I knew where I stood. They were direct and clear, whereas women were far more ambiguous and likely to stab you in the back.

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shibumi's avatar

I have a friend who works in Big Pharma; she works with all women and is miserable.

I used to work in live entertainment production. 99% men. So much easier to deal with just men rather than women.

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Athena's avatar

I can relate to that. Though I had a couple of close girlfriends, I preferred my "boyfriends" from kindergarten onwards. Whether it was playing soccer, discussing or dancing with them. (I loved listening to the males of the family discussing politics, was not into dolls and got bored playing with my female cousins.)

At university, except for a couple of like-minded girlfriends, the girls tended to be more difficult to work with in teams than the boys. Less straight-forward, more passive-aggressive.

The only problems I have ever had with co-workers, except for a couple of backward bosses in a patriarchal company, were because of women. I only ever had male bosses. Being hard-working and pretty smart, they tended to like me and let me do my thing (which was smart on their part). Some of my female colleagues in two small firms I worked for talked behind my back. Envy is a nasty energy, and I have mostly felt it from other women.

When I joined a multi-national engineering corporation in a managerial position, I was surrounded by men. I attended conferences and seminars with dozens and even hundreds of other managers, all male. I never had a problem with them, though it was extremely demanding to level up with them - senior businessmen, engineers, physicists for whom I was the exotic exception: a pretty, young woman with lots of creativity and intuition. An outlier they accepted as long as I performed at their level. I found that fair and learned to live with that constant pressure. I was staff; they had to managed hundreds of employees and bring in the money, so my stress, which caused me migraine headaches every weekend, was minimal compared to theirs. They earned my full respect. When it got too much for them, they would come to my office, shut the door and empty their hearts, including the CEO. In that way we had a beautiful male female dynamic. I did not feel taken advantage of. Quite the opposite, I felt appreciated for what I brought to the table, empathy among other qualities, and honoured to have their trust.

At the same time, I was also put in charge of workplace equality of opportunity. I created a a completely heterogonous team composed of factory workers, employee representatives, female engineers and managers, as well as soon-to-be company managers for the purpose of ensuring equality of opportunity for all. We were allowed to compare salaries along gender lines across the company and to recommend raises where they were due (2 cases out of 1600 employees only, meaning the company had gender equality not only in their salary system but also in practice, and that over 30 years ago!). We were instrumental in encouraging training of the male and especially female factory workers, hiring more female engineers (almost impossible at the time to find any), opening a childcare facility on our premises and pushing for part-time work even in the top management, so that women - and men! - could take care of a family while occupying a management position.

The only "enemy" I had in my five-year tenure was a HR manager who was the highest ranking woman in the company before I joined. She, a proper alpha female, did her best to sabotage me and to sour my colleagues and other managers against me. On top of having to handle an unmanageable workload, I had to watch the knives flying in my back. On the other hand, the male country-wide HR manager was encouraging me and would have groomed me to become the next president of the company and its 16 thousand employees in that country, if I had not decided to quit before.

So, while I fought for the rights of women (the first newspaper article I wrote as an intern was a study I conducted comparing the salaries of men and women in the watch-making industry of Switzerland, exposing the inequalities), I love strong men and married one. Just like my parents, hard-working farmers who split the tasks and responsibilities of running the farm and raising four children, my husband and I cooperate. He is a chef, among other things, and feeds us his delicious meals! He is also a contractor, so he was in charge of building our homes, which I designed. I earn the money for the most part, which I couldn't do if he wasn't taking care of managing our off-grid life in a remote area. We met later in life (after failed marriages on both sides) and don't have children. We have a sanctuary for rescued cats and dogs for which we care, along with the land we live on.

As a coach and therapist, I work with lots of well-educated and single career-women in their 30ies and 40ies, many of them "feminists". I would not want to be in their shoes. Because of their indoctrination and the resulting world-view. Because of their minimal chance of finding a mate. If they do find one, he is likely to be a feminist (don't you love it when a man tells you he is a "feminist"?!) soy boy, who she will pretend to herself to respect, but will come to despise and therefore openly dominate, making them both miserable. - That's not even taking into account the younger generation and their gender-fluid madness and ensuing misery. The Tavistock Institute and the Rockefellers have succeeded with their plans. Their agenda to destroy the family, as well as the union between a male and a female, has almost reached its conclusion.

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Stephen Carter's avatar

It seems that most ism's of the last 100 years have devolved into hatred / replacement. There's the initial intoxication of a 'new' way of understanding ... followed by ruination.

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JGP's avatar

Women like you make the sun shine. I know, I have been living with one for 45 years.

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Ruth H's avatar

Well said and totally agree. The male bosses I had were superior to the female bosses. I also have better and closer relationships with my two brothers than my three sisters.

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Curtis's avatar

In 1990 I was a young, "enlightened" man and married a woman who was an "empowered" single mother and a Type A professional. I supported her ambitions at the expense of my own, trying to pay down my male guilt I suppose. After our marriage fell apart about 15 years later, she admitted that she'd always wished she could've just been a stay-at-home mom... That information would've been helpful at the beginning....

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Roger Beal's avatar

Ahh, she paid a high price to maintain a facade, just to appear hip.

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Curtis's avatar

She wasn't trying to appear hip as much as she just bought into the "empowered woman" lie.

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Dr. Dre's avatar

That's so awful of her as a human being to have done that! Girls get so pumped full of that $#!t these days . . . . what became of the child?

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Curtis's avatar

Not awful, just misguided. Her daughter followed in her steps and became a single mom and teacher...

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Rose's avatar

I’m 70 years old, and I’ve gained a lot of wisdom. Feminism means nothing to me, is it just another word for power, control? I’m married 49 years, my two sister in laws 60 years. My parents 56 years, but they’re together now in heaven. My 4 children collectively 72 years. You know what I believe held these enduring marriages together love. The true meaning of the word. When we spoke our vows we believed in those words. I always believed that having sex with my husband was really making love, we became one. Please don’t misunderstand I’m not saying all marriages are perfect, I’m just saying women today you want a soulmate figure out what it means to truly love. The true essence of the word. I feel sorry for the young in the dating scene, we’ve lost trust and question “What is this persons ulterior motive?” Sorry I’ll get off my soapbox now.

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Hugh Abercrombie's avatar

Love is the answer Rose. Loved your reply. Don’t apologize (you may be Canadian without knowing it).

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Rose's avatar

Thank you. Born and raised in the Bronx New York. My mother was born in Sicily, my father Naples Italy. 😊Italian at heart.

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Boris Doyle's avatar

Until feminism, socialism and Marxism are removed from universities, the long March to the destruction of Western civilisation will continue.

Just an FYI

A good portion of women raped in German cities that night were gang raped by Muslim migrants.

It was the rape game they play.

It took our media almost four weeks before they started reporting on it.

Last time I checked only two of tge scumbags were prosecuted.

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John Sutton's avatar

Imagine such a thing happening 50 years ago? There would have been hell to pay. If western culture hadn’t defanged men since then, street justice would have, should have, taken care of that issue.

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LMS2's avatar

That's why Europeans have been disarmed.

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Boris Doyle's avatar

Chivalry would have kicked.

Just like in Russia the October Revolution was started by women, Prohibition was lead by women.

We think men are in charge in reality it's women.

Behind every successful leader is a woman.

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Ruth H's avatar

As a woman, I have never thought women should be leaders or in charge. Most are too emotional or the opposite in spades, no in-between. There may be a woman behind every successful leader, but there to support not dominate. I’ll gladly let men lead.

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Science is Political 2.0's avatar

I really think it is a JOINT EFFORT and should be. Men do have a function besides lifting heavy things.. :) and being dad. and women do have a function besides being a procreator and mom. As a Christian I believe in the MALE AND FEMALE working as UNIT.. a WHOLE.. ENTITY and Marriage is a projection of the ENTITY of MALE AND FEMALE. does that make sense to you?.

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Letsrock's avatar

That's what I always believed but it somehow was not played out in the real life in front of me. In my mind that was what 'traditionalist' meant and what I aspired to. It never seemed to work out that way for me tho.

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Michael Alfred's avatar

No

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Boris Doyle's avatar

Really.....like gin and tonic, rum and coke,

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Boris Doyle's avatar

Dynamite and matches, Nitroglycerin and gravity, or holding lightening rods during thunderstorms.

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Phil Kaminski's avatar

The Russian Revolution and Prohibition, Two of the worst movements ever! Prohibition led to massive lawlessness, as people will drink, It's in your byline! Not to mention the boost it gave to organized crime. Led by the first generation of skolds. Now we call them Karens. And the other one, ooooh thats a hot one. Stalin killed 20, 30, 40 million of his own people! Are you that clueless?

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Boris Doyle's avatar

Say what.

I'm not clueless, I know what happened.

Are you being a low IQ 'jump to conclusions' torch bearing moron who jumps to conclusion based on flimsy evidence?

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Unapologetically Me's avatar

Yep! (Unless of course the perps were disguised behind a collar. Not white or blue ones either.)

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wilson's avatar

I wouldn't say this, of course, but I know someone who would say, kill them all.

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Science is Political 2.0's avatar

I am well aware of that being half German and born there and I have family still there.

it was shocking. Germany is going to have a serious decision.. very very soon..

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Tom Potts's avatar

The Islamic “rape” parties began in 626 Anno Domini in Medina, then Mecca and have expanded since then. After they rape them, then their scimitars remove their heads. Islam is exactly the same since the beginning.

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Katy Marriott's avatar

I was there in Cologne that night, walking alone through the station next to the square where it all happened, at coming up to midnight. I feel so lucky it wasn't me.

The German press was conspicuously silent on the details.

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Boris Doyle's avatar

The press all over Western civilisation was silent.

After one day I'd think maybe there's a delay, but almost four weeks is just crazy.

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LMS2's avatar

"Men are abusive by *Nature*, while Women could not be abusive under *any* circumstances' part of it."

Unless the men in question are from that particular ethnic and/or religious background. Then it's the other way around.

See the UK's grooming gangs scandal....

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Letsrock's avatar

Having grown up in the middle of two sisters, both narcissist and I the empath, I learned early on what they were capable of and they only got worse as yrs have gone on.

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Redskelton's avatar

Thank you. It is Marxist. And there is a plot to rule over All people worldwide and to destroy civilization is the GOAL.

Canada actually signed up for global extermination!

Extermination is being done to Europe in record time. The war with Russia is an ensured defeat. It is of no benefit to Europe to wage war. It is an intentional suicide because the E.U. is bankrupt. Morally and physically bankrupt.

The Streamlined destruction of all rights and resources and PEOPLES worldwide is a collective goal of the United Nations extermination complex that mind-fucked Western People into destitution and slavery with their consent believing they were voting for progress.

Where the fuck is it! There is no sign of an informed public or culture or prosperous people anywhere. Our global rulers have turned the world into a porta potty that has been tipped over. This is a culture where shit streams everywhere cakes in chemicals and propaganda to mask the smell. And any form of access to autonomy or choice. The language of lies and deception by podcasts has misaligned people to do the worst possible outcomes for themselves and their families wealth and future. Participation in the structure is all it needs for you to be digitally caged in the Palantir Prison. The ease to destroy you with people of no morality or information is present. The maggot class which seized all of the power from the State have usurped also your minds to become the privatized armies to implement hell upon yourselves. Rightless mules with bankruptcy notes for I.O.U.s to Bank of International Settlements are self-fullfilming their own genocide. Maggot Class trillionaire with impunity who control Blackrock, Vanguard, Statestreet and Fidelity are working tirelessly to ensure that NO MAN OR WOMAN can ever touch their thrones of trillions in stolen wealth ever again. And big tech and invisible threats inside your body and mind made it possible. using drones, and satellites, and biological censors implanted inside you. You are already a slave. All of this was done without your consent. Anyone who challenges their own assassination of their family is attacked by secret police JUST AS WAS DONE TO ME by every branch of the mercantilist mayhem architecture. This is a privatized extermination campaign. A partnership that uses your cops, judges, and mind-washed people to end life as we know it.

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Author John G. Dyer's avatar

Gosh. So much raw insight in one place. I should be used to it by now, having read more than a dozen of your essays, but I remain in awe.

I have nothing to add except to say, look to us older, conventionally successful men for affirmation. Testosterone levels decline, wisdom creeps in where it can.

I'm auditioning for shaman. Your vote would be appreciated.

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Katy Marriott's avatar

You have my vote. Do I need to contribute a fur hat or feathers or suchlike?

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Author John G. Dyer's avatar

I've never had a suchlike, but now I feel like I can't possibly do without one. Yes, please.

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Deborah Pelt's avatar

Perfect!

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Unapologetically Me's avatar

Link please... 😉

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Author John G. Dyer's avatar

See now, there's the problem with trying to be witty. My wife tells me, nobody ever gets it. The lady is right, most of the time. It was a gag. Failed again. Darn.

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Unapologetically Me's avatar

You didn't fail.

I was poking you in ribs but it got lost in Substack. Did u not notice the winky? 😉

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Author John G. Dyer's avatar

I did notice the winky, but I wasn't sure if I was off the hook. What a relief. Thanks for the vote of confidence.

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Grace Joubarne's avatar

Feminism was instituted and funded by Rockefeller...Gloria Steinam and Betty Friesen were raging communists and both were promiscuous lesbians.

Perhaps you would like to know some of the things I came to understand about the feminists during my 26 years as a cliical hypnotherapist and marriage counsellor. I had started my practice during the time when feminism was all the rage.

I should clarify that I had a hugely successful practice with no advertising or marketing. I was known for telling it like it was and after people spent years paying a psychologist or shrink to tell them what they wanted to hear or to load them up with pills, they would come to me as a 'last resort'.

Here's what I concluded based on the evidence that appeared before me:

1. most 'feminists' hated themselves, wanted to be something or someone else;

2. most were hiding their sociopathy behind their feminist charade;

3. most were supreme bitches, and had always been bitches and thus had few friends and attracted few if any partners. Instead of blaming their character flaws on themselves, they blamed it on the very people smart enough to run from them;

4. real women of the past knew their worth and used their influence judicially and strategically. Today loud-mouth feminists talk just to hear themselves talk, and or to try to make themselves relevant and important because they know most of us know they are neither relevant nor important;

5. real women had staying power and team-building skills. Feminists destroy, which is why they were ideal candidates for DEI jobs;

6. most of the 'feminists' I worked with were extremely abusive to their male partners and in most cases, if they came in as a couple, I would urge the male to leave the abusive situation;

7. feminists have absolutely no idea there is a vast difference between love and gratutious sex;

8. every feminist I dealt with had many degrees ... one had 6 masters degrees, but all were still useless. They all felt they were underemployed given their extensive academic accomplishments, yet not one could land a job at MacDonald's;

9. despite the many academic achievements these women had under their belt, they were useless at the basics, such as 'genuinely' loving their childen if they had some, being civilized with the partner who worked all day only to come home and take care of the children so she could be out having fun with her female friends. Forget asking them to get their hands dirty in the garden, cleaning up a flood in the house, cleaning up from wind damage, fixing a minor plumbing issue, etc.;

10. they are patently stupid about real life and meaningful relationships and are a punishment to be around.

I have never worked for a female before or after I was inpractice, except for the first one when I was 17 years old that was so jealous, rude and demanding that no one could stand her. I have always found men to be easier to understand, to get through to and to work with. They think in a linear fashion, one step-at-a-time, but women always bring ridiculous self-serving emotion into every discussion and every discussion was circular.

Most of the feminists I worked with were plain and simple not nice people on any level, and no man wanted to be with them for that reason. But once told they were 'feminists' they wore their insufferability like a badge of honour, then blamed everyone else for not respecting them or 'loving them'.

The courts drove men out of the lives of their families. I worked with countless men who were prevented from even seeing their kids -- the women were generally the ones engaged in parental alienation. The men could not even protect their kids from the women's boyfriends who often were pedophiles. The courts in Canada actively work to remove the father from the family, and often presume that the woman with the revolving door of boy-friends is logically the better care-giver, when the modern woman is far, far from that.

One of my last cases before retirement, I will never forget. The woman had been the Head of Nurses in a major Canadian hospital and retired 2 years by the time I saw her. She had been told that she would still be given work and invited to conferences and internal meetings to share her 'wisdom' during retirement.

However, once she walked out the door, not a single invite, not a single staff member wanted to spend any time with her and even when she invited herself to the hospital to visit, they all avoided her like a plague.

She was a feminist she bragged, never married and 100% devoted to her job. Now she was very, very angry at not getting the respect for her wisdom and years of dedication to her work that she felt she deserved. How dare they leave her out of everything.

As I tried to move the discussion to how she could move forward, now that the doors were closed, she would tell me how to conduct my session. She could see I would not commiserate with her and would never join in her attacks about her staff.

I called her on this effort to control how I approached the arrival to a resolution with her and she said, obviously feeling much indignity ' How dare you talk to me that way ... no one has ever challenged me like that and it is rude to do so. Do you know who I am?'

Well, that was the wrong question to ask me because after asking her if she really wanted me to answer her question, and she saying 'yes', I said that she was being shown by her former staff and employer that she had been a supreme bitch and they could not wait to see her gone. I said it was obvious that she had been extremely mean and that she expected them to keep putting up with her behavior and disrespect of others after she was out the door.

I said, "you burn't those bridges and they cannot be rebuilt', but you can change your approach to life going forward. Doing that bit of reflection and making the necessary changes, you would not have to be lonely, demanding or forcing others to put up with you."

She got so red in the face, I thought she was ready to blow a gasket. She then told me that she didn't like the way I was talking to her. I reminded her that she knew exactly how straight-forward I am and that I never mince-words because the person who referred her to me told her she had benefitted immensely from my honesty and no-nonsense approach.

She got up and said 'we weren't a good fit' and I said I wholeheartedly agreed, as I don't take abuse from anyone. I opened the door for her and closed it tightly behind her.

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elizabeth nickson's avatar

👏👏👏👏❤️

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Ruth H's avatar

Wow. I’m supremely impressed with your strength and character. You are/were the utmost required voice your patients/clientele so desperately needed if they were ever going to improve their sad lot of life and choices.

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Wm. S. Loder's avatar

You described everything I’ve experienced in my many years. I grew up with 4 sisters. One a Feminist. After years of betrayal, drama and abusive treatment from her no one in our family has anything to do with her. You described her to a tee.

I’ve always observed that sociopathic men physically abuse. Sociopathic women are Feminists. They are emotionally unstable and have a bottomless hole in their souls that they try to fill with hate.

Much like men it’s only a portion of the population and most are good kind people. Seems like the most prevalent cause it’s the most chaos. My advise is when you first confront a feminist turn around and go the other way. If you have influence over the situation eliminate the person cause they are making everyone’s life miserable.

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Grace Joubarne's avatar

Feminist = unlivable circumstances for others, but

Feminist Lesbian is practically a death sentence for anyone forced to live in their midst.

I know, there's one in my family.

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Redskelton's avatar

There it is. The same menacing culprits and their model that they wield over the mind-fucked masses. Always promising to fix gender, wealth, some disparity under the name "social" or equality environmentalistic jingoism while advancing the destruction of lives and cultures around the world. W.E.F. seized the U.N. A privatized enslaved planet is their only ambition. They have never offered anything else but pain and suffering with only a handful of winners. Those are the monsters of financial dominance that you aspire to be. You work hard to appear in the minds of other morally destitute scoundrels that you are part of something. But like the vanquished demonic Snakes on a stick that run the collapse. You are just a more pathetic version of yourself. Beings of no meaning or ethics have plagues the Earth. People who support no one, not even their kids or elderly parents. The lowest forms of life in a social darwinism exchange of bad ideas and the worst possible outcomes. This is your political system. The lowest leaches on Earth serve its ranks to commit genocide and aspire to watch celebrities deceive them on every screen.

What you are is the vessel for transhumanist enslavement. And a lot of work was done to ensure that you would disbelieve your own hands as the executioner of everyone you told yourself you loved in your entire life.

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Danimal28's avatar

My daughter is 25 and a devoted mother of two dealing with the economics of the day which aren't good: can't afford housing on a six figure hubby salary. She is embracing being a mother and housewife - both kids are completely unvaxxed - and both kids are way ahead of the game. They make their own food. It is pretty cool to experience.

Their friend groups are kids that grew up at our houses 40 miles away from the Twin Shitties and they are just waiting for our policies(the BBB) to engage so they can experience 2019 again. And they will as G-d saved him on J13.

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Live Life Not Behind Glass's avatar

The bbb is full of traps

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Danimal28's avatar

It is, but there is much good in there. We will never get a really good, anti-government, pro-America bill with politicians paid by foreigners.

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Frank Canzolino's avatar

Is it okay for a man to like this post?

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Tom Potts's avatar

Sure, Elizabeth speaks with common sense, with a side of hilarity and sarcasm.

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Dr Jen | Syringa Wellness's avatar

Try, delicious rage 🔥🔥

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Deb's avatar

I got it!! Lol

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Nick Bowles's avatar

Helps if you read it first.

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Frank Canzolino's avatar

I see jokes are not in your wheelhouse…

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Nick Bowles's avatar

If you read the article, then you know your comment is both asinine and grovelling

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Chriss Hammerschmidt's avatar

My mom was a single mom and worked, I didn't know any other way. I wish I could have been a stay-at-home mom, to nurture my kids. I feel like I missed out. I think my kids got the short end of the stick. Thanks for your great articles.

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Tim Pallies's avatar

"after many of the men she dated either seemed turned off by her ambition or weren't career-oriented enough for her" What incredible insight! Kind of nice how it clearly places the blame on them.

It reminds of the job applicant asked to list a weakness who professes that "sometimes I'm too much of a perfectionist." Sure you are, cupcake.

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fiendish_librarian's avatar

Having known and dated women like her, their charm wears off literally within minutes. You don't go on dates with women like these, you go on interviews. I had a better time chatting to the barmaids after I put women like these in cabs to take them home.

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Curtis's avatar

For myself, I was immediately turned off by her crazy eyes and wraith-like grimace....

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Roger Beal's avatar

Yep, those crazy eyes. Karen eyes. Hillary eyes. Ghislaine eyes.

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Tim Pallies's avatar

“Wraith-like.” I love it!

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Science is Political 2.0's avatar

OK gotta go. :) have a great day all. this has been interesting I too am over 65 so.. been there done that took the BAKING CLASS TOO.. .. LOLOLOLOL

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Catherine Brown's avatar

Keep up the good work. We were duped for sure.

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shibumi's avatar

To everyone here who has daughters.... talk to them. Tell them what they are missing. Talk to them about the people they're working with, since that's where they might meet a mate. If the daughter leans conservative at all, she will NOT find a mate in a liberal workplace. Actually, that includes young men as well. Help her understand the consequences of her choices in a non-confrontational way.

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Crimson's avatar

The nyt article author proudly mentions she “optimized” internet porn engagement among 18 year olds. And she wants men to respect her? Stay away from my son you ghoul.

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Teresa Parmenter's avatar

Thank you Elizabeth. Made me laugh at Bill Clinton’s face melting off his bones. 😁 great essay and I appreciate you.

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Deana's avatar

My 20 year-old son has a sweet girl he's been steady with for over a year. They really seem to click and the best thing is they are still focused on their work, school, and friends. Understand they are very Gen Z which means they find Boomers and Millennials repellent but tolerate their Gen X parents as they appreciate our ignored status.

To be honest a version of my past self wouldn't have been so happy at young love and would have wanted my son to be "tied down" by a girlfriend. Now I don't think that at all and hope to see him marry before age 25.

About 5 years ago I gave him a piece of advice on relationships and said find someone early on that you can grow with (as his dad and I did at 24...together for 35 yrs). You'll be more forgiving of mistakes and flaws. I pointed to a few folks he knew that are single and middle age and said they waited too long plus relationship failure that damaged their trust. If you try and find someone in your mid 30's you are choosing from the "dented can aisle."

I have a lot of faith in my son's generation because of their quiet rejection of much of the B.S. projected onto them by the cultural controllers. You may not see it but it's there.

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Tom Potts's avatar

Men and women should marry very young and grow together in experience and learn how to navigate life together. Have babies quickly. When you are older, you will have money to travel and far more appreciation for what you see. If your children marry young and also have children soon, then you will have the energy to know and play with your grandchildren and take them on trips. Even to camping in the woods or wherever. People don’t need lot’s of dating to be happy. They need to find someone and cling to each other. Commitment is extremely important . Genesis 2:24 is the only definition of marriage. Marriage is a fusion of one man and one woman into one flesh, for a lifetime.

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Clyde's avatar

Your comment reminded me of a quote attributed to Ricardo Montoban which was something to the effect of: "A great lover is not one man who loves many women like Ruldolph Valintino; a great lover is one man who loves one woman all of his life".

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Tom Potts's avatar

That’s me

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shibumi's avatar

I have 2 stepsons. One is 28 with an oops baby; he married the mom and now has a second son. He did not go to college. The second one is 31, a college graduate; he is much more impressionable than the younger one, and adopts the beliefs of his co-workers. He's in a very liberal workplace with, IMHO, psychologically unstable young women. I don't know if he'll ever marry.

As for finding someone who isn't damaged while you're in your 30s.... spot on. That's the case for both men and women. My older stepson seems to think that he has the charm and the looks to get a much younger women when/if he decides to marry. I have a different opinion on that, since he doesn't have an income for a young, pretty pseudo-trophy wife.

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PEL's avatar
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That’s sad that they label all older people repellent. Such a sweeping generalization. I prefer to see people as individuals. But at 20 guess you think you know everything.

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Deana's avatar

Sure however this is not something new between generations.

I would suggest that his awareness of generational traits will serve him well as he will know the type of folks to avoid and those that align more with his values.

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PEL's avatar

And what are “generational traits?” Everyone in a certain age bracket is somehow the same? I will no longer engage but it’s clear where these views came from.

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Bobby Lime's avatar

It is something new. I'm a Boomer. Contrary to the mythicization of The Boomer, with the kinds of exceptions there always are, we did not hate our parents or people their ages, let alone our grandparents or others of their generation.

I think older people sometimes wondered if we might have hated them, but normal adolescence is almost genetically determined to be a young person's time to be a jackass.

We Boomers are hated by GenZ, and it shocks me. Their savagery is real and it is stupid. Anyone who thinks all people born within a certain span of years are "the same" vindicates the common Boomer judgment that most GenZ kids aren't very bright, a judgment which is validated almost daily by our willfully brief encounters with them, whether in person, when we can bask in their vacuous countenances, or by Internet, which allows us to behold their wondrous lack of grasp of the basics of their native language, its proper use, and its correct punctuation; not to mention the fabulously dopey things they usually have to say and the moral and spiritual emptiness which they exude.

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Deana's avatar

"....vindicates the common Boomer judgment that most GenZ kids aren't very bright, a judgment which is validated almost daily by our willfully brief encounters with them blah, blah blah, blah and blah...."

"Brief" encounters versus judging cultural domination of a generation that spans nearly 80 years.

Go ahead and hate on them but understand, in all seriousness, they could care less.

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Bobby Lime's avatar

That should be, "...they couldn't care less," because it's obvious they don't care at all, which is why I vented.

Yeah, blah blah blah to you, too. Why would anybody bother to take learning seriously?

It isn't hatred, it's despair mixed with disgust. It used to mean something great to be an American.

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PEL's avatar

Sure so avoid anyone older than he is. Got it. Seems limiting. Maybe he got this idea of sweeping condemnations of older generations from you!

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Deana's avatar

It really isn't something to worry yourself about. You can take heart that my kid loves all the older folks in his life.

He and his cohort simply don't want to work for them. Not a new thing. It's really ok.

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PEL's avatar

Oh NOW you clarify he doesn’t mean everyone who is older. That is not what you originally said. Not worried at all -I find it sad when people are judgmental for inherent traits like age which was your original statement.

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Nick Bowles's avatar

I really like the dented can image. But, as a divorced man I’d not wish for my son to marry.

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Deana's avatar

I understand. Though I've been with my son's father for 35 years we are not officially married (for a variety of reasons). We always wonder if the length of our relationship has something to do with that. We know how our status could alter how our son approaches things but ideally he understands that "marriage" is an idea of commitment not a ritual performed in front of people or a piece of paper. For many that's all that is holding things together.

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shibumi's avatar

Marriage offers legal protections to both men and women. Also... if one of the couple gets sick, marriage makes it easier for their partner to interface with the hospital and doctors.

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Deana's avatar

Hospitals don't care or check. Several years ago a stroke caused by a snapped carotid artery landed my guy in ICU (he fully recovered). No one asked for proof of marriage they assumed it and I did not correct them. I was there the entire time.

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Yukon Dave's avatar

we use broken toys after christmas but dented can aisle fits.

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Kat D's avatar

‘Dented can aisle’ 😁 brilliant !

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Dr Jen | Syringa Wellness's avatar

This is exactly the advice I gave to my current 20 yr old son as well. I am also in full matchmaking mode... 😬😅

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Nick Bowles's avatar

You are great role models. Her parents?

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Deana's avatar

From my understanding she has been brought up in a pretty conservative Christian household. My son says her parents are nice and seem to like him. She's pretty modest with a gentle nature but the twist is she's very artistically talented and has a quiet confidence that I think comes from that (also she's Navajo and it's a thing...). My son's best friend (from preschool) set them up because they have the same interests and he was right.

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Nick Bowles's avatar

Sounds wonderful, if anyone can make it, they can, with your guidance. I do hope so. This is a tough world.

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