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Roger Beal's avatar

Since the evidentiary videos are in the FBI's hands, stand by for very selective prosecutions. Any videos that compromise The One, or high-powered politicos and left-leaning businessmen, will disappear. These bastards are good at one thing, and that is circling the wagons.

JWM_IN_VA's avatar

I'm suspicious of the timing of this. It seems to me that Diddy and apparatus was rolled up in advance of the election.

Alexander Scipio's avatar

Yeah. If I thought Joe were sentient, I’d think he’s just burning the place down as retribution on his way out .. but somebody sure is…

Lanceman's avatar

I think he has a little left. Donning that MAGA hat was not accidental, like shitting his pants in front of the Pope. He and Harris hate each other, as do he and obama.

Elsie E Connelly's avatar

Makes me feel better.

CANNOT. ABIDE. EITHER. OBAMA

Alzaebo's avatar

Trump promised you a storm, did he not? And the guys fighting trafficking were and are on his side.

elizabeth nickson's avatar

That list is referential not confirmed.

Ellen's avatar

Trump is on that list.

Along with Obama.

Lanceman's avatar

I saw that. I'm certain Trump has been added to lists ad nauseam. Look. If they had ANYTHING on him, you'd hear about it 24/7. They cannot afford allowing him into the WH again.

TexBritta's avatar

A list is just a list. Come on people. Don’t you get tired of all the BS lists?

The real evidence are the court transcripts. Take a breather, relax and read the trial court transcripts because from the way I see it, Trump hasn’t been implicated. And besides, the Epstein raid was on his watch. People that accuse him show hate…not intelligence.

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/24253239-1324-epstein-documents-943-pages

Prince Andrew is the first one so far but we knew that.

It’s looking like around 950 pages spread out across 40 attachments.

Clinton is named in attachment 4.

Clinton and Steven Hawking.

David Copperfield named.

Trump was named and Ghislane said he didn’t receive a massage.

And apparently George Lucas didn’t either because they were named close together but were said to not have received anything.

Dershowitz is mentioned over 100 times, but he was counsel for Epstein so who knows.

He’s mentioned the most so I think he for sure did something to the girls.

Most of the names are the girls who were trafficked.

I don’t think anything implicates Trump on the island.

Michael Jackson was mentioned twice as being at Epstein parties.

Trump mentioned twice as well. One time as never getting a massage, and one time as a reference to “if they can’t land the plane they will call Trump and they can land at his property” or something of that nature.

Only time Trump is mentioned in the docs that dropped yesterday.

I won’t believe any list or names unless they can show me on what page the names are listed.

Some things that are in there include Prince Andrew and something with young girls and puppets????

Bill Clinton admitting to one of the plaintiffs that “he likes his girls young” which shouldn’t surprise anyone.

I mean along with Prince Andrew he’s the biggest name that actually seems to have allegations against him and he knows probably so many other people.

Clinton just was a close friend that admitted to one of the victims that he liked his girls young.

There is no way we’re ever going to get every name and information on what all those people actually did. But more document drops will happen in the future.

I’m just saying you can’t be at Epstein parties telling the young girls there who were trafficked that “you like them young” and not be sexually assaulting and raping them.

Letsrock's avatar

The evidence is in the videos.

E. Grogan's avatar

All it says is "Trump" it doesn't say which Trump. We do know he has a few relatives who have been and are deep state. Trump is not the problem and has never been any part of deep state. He had Epstein arrested for bringing 14 y.o. date to his home, back in 2009. He had Epstein arrested. I've researched deep state 30 yrs, there are lots of things I don't think you know; you can't take things at face value in this war.

Paul B. Cohen's avatar

Evidence, and of wrongdoing, not just sitting down with the guy.

JTemp's avatar

Did you not see the name Trump on the list of attendees in this writing?

Letsrock's avatar

Trump was the only one cooperating w police to get him indicted in Palm Bch.

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E. Grogan's avatar

I've watched Trump for 45 yrs because I knew that one day he would be president; he talked about it back in 1981 at least. He is the real deal and is legitimate.

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E. Grogan's avatar

Yes they are a huge spider web; no Trump isn't part of them, never has been but has been busy fighting them for at least 45 yrs since I've watched him. He is NOT part of deep state, take that to the bank.

Duchess's avatar

None of the tapes will get to court. Done before in case Trump won. They have to get rid of all evidence before Jan 20th. There will be no tapes to prosecute. They will all escape. A good plan. Watch Diddy get off lightly.

Little Nell's avatar

I concur: this seems like Pizza Gate II, very suspicious of the timing.

JWM_IN_VA's avatar

Sorry...not a Qtard...no, I mean they are rolling it up into investigation so evidence is destroyed b4 congress can get into it

JWM_IN_VA's avatar

Or more specifically a Trump DOJ

Positively Paying It Forward's avatar

This might have something to do with it.

Those playing chess at the top just keeping everyone in line as we head into November.

https://thomas699.substack.com/p/is-kamala-a-very-freaky-girl

With her LA office, where she spends an awful lot of time as VP, makes one wonder. Lots of fundraiser activity coming out of So Cal as well.

Mind you, Trump is on the list as well.

Oh the choices we have this year....................are stunning........................stunningly ridiculous.

Holly's avatar

You answered my question; Why Now? (Anybody surprised at this name, Harry S…? well, this is where it all began.)

PFStevens's avatar

Doesn’t mean it’s not true , just timed appropriately ( for them of course)

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E. Grogan's avatar

I don't think it's the deep state releasing this info; why would they be releasing this info on their own people and themselves? That makes no sense. This is from white hats military who are the same ones who are arresting people like P. Diddy. We've been under martial law since Jan. 6, 2021 there is much evidence presented for that. They probably released it to out Kamala Harris, Obamas, etc. which I'm fine with - all that white hats are doing is releasing truth We the People should know about. We don't need to have these people get elected to run America.

E. Grogan's avatar

I can confirm this; I worked in a program that had to deal with CPS and knew about trafficking back in late 1990s.

James Filbird's avatar

Yep, I also noticed the reference to the Devil: Sinaloa Cartel sues for $666,000. Not $665,000 or $667,000, but exactly $666K. 👿

Elsie E Connelly's avatar

Well if that isn't a TELL, I don't know what is

Marsha McGrath's avatar

That link indicates that the end result is for the remains of humanity to follow Lucifer after WWIII. I think the larger popular (like us) will hold vehemently to Our Lord and Saviour Who will rise to keep humanity from becoming extinct and evil. We win with God.

Marsha McGrath's avatar

The larger ‘population’, not “popular”. Sorry.

John R. Grout's avatar

Why should I believe any of this crap? Satan if evil but he does not need to create elaborate disguises for evil except to excite stupid fundies to which this sort of thing is catnip. If they love it, something is seriously wrong.

Kristina the Short's avatar

"for an idiot, no amount of proof is enough."

you have here actual videos of still-living victims. that's not enough? then what WOULD be enough to convince you? direct observation? participation??

no --- no one is under

any obligation to convince you. You're not on the jury. However you ARE on the side of the cruel. In your brief comment you insult the people who find this horrible, but talk respectfully about the father of lies.

enjoy your time here; eternity is a very long time. I consign you to Elohim.

Robert Lime's avatar

Maybe, but this is a wicked empire beginning to collapse, the Russians lobbing shells into the heart of Berlin in late April, 1945. A lot of other victims, encouraged by what has become known, and by those who are speaking up, will themselves start to speak up. It happened with Weinstein. It happened with Maxwell. Nobody with a level of bullshit detector more developed than the average child's believes that Epstein wasn't murdered.

As for the FBI, there are still people of honor, people with a capacity for moral outrage, and I am not as pessimistic as you that the incendiary evidence will not become public. Forty years ago, pre Internet, maybe. Now? I think there is little chance of it. The MSM always does what it can to suppress information which is inimical to its interests and prejudices, as it is doing now with the new book about the Biden crime family. How do I know such a book even exists, given the media blackout of it? Because I saw that its author was being interviewed on this week's Hillsdale College podcast, and listened to it. You can, too.

This is truly apocalyptic. The often cryptic text of the Book of Revelation speaks clearly enough about the Kings of the Earth, about how vile they are. I'm also reminded of the horrifying verse earlier in the New Testament, that the whole world lies in wickedness ( 1 John 5:19 ).

Thank you for reporting this, Miss Nickson. This young woman, Ally Carter, needs everyone's prayers for safety and for healing. It's dismaying to see the single word, Trump, listed as a party guest. God knows.

It's ironic that Robert DeNiro would be listed, because in the movie which made him a star, Taxi Driver, the DeNiro character achieves some meaning for himself by wiping out a few of the runners and habitues of a small den of iniquity to try to save the life of the 12 year old prostitute played by Jodie Foster.

Roger Beal's avatar

It's not MSM suppression I worry about. It is the willful concealment of evidence by our letter agencies that I fear.

Irunthis1's avatar

They are letting any future congress creatures / “leaders” know that they got the goods and can bury anyone they want with it or let anyone they want to let go with it (hide evidence—never destroy it because then they might not do as told). They are hedging their bets. It should all be completely exposed and let the cards fall where they may regardless of how fucking depraved. Let light shine on the darkness and the world see just how sick these people really are.

elizabeth nickson's avatar

Trump went to everything. To my mind, he kept himself clean, but don’t know

TexBritta's avatar

Well I know cause I read the court trial transcripts👇

Richard Ong's avatar

Bush '41 made an apparently brief appearance at a Craig Spence party in DC. Odd that he was out and about at night dropping by such parties. Beyond odd was Spence's ability to conduct late night tours of, IKYN, the White House. On an unrelated note Spence was said to have young men at his parties who were brought from Boys' Town in Nebraska.

Elsie E Connelly's avatar

That is terrible. BOYS TOWN?

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TexBritta's avatar

He was never at the island. I wish people would read actual documentation like the court trial transcripts 👇

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/24253239-1324-epstein-documents-943-pages

Prince Andrew is the first one so far but we knew that.

It’s looking like around 950 pages spread out across 40 attachments.

Clinton is named in attachment 4.

Clinton and Steven Hawking.

David Copperfield named.

Trump was named and Ghislane said he didn’t receive a massage.

And apparently George Lucas didn’t either because they were named close together but were said to not have received anything.

Dershowitz is mentioned over 100 times, but he was counsel for Epstein so who knows.

He’s mentioned the most so I think he for sure did something to the girls.

Most of the names are the girls who were trafficked.

I don’t think anything implicates Trump on the island.

Michael Jackson was mentioned twice as being at Epstein parties.

Trump mentioned twice as well. One time as never getting a massage, and one time as a reference to “if they can’t land the plane they will call Trump and they can land at his property” or something of that nature.

Only time Trump is mentioned in the docs that dropped yesterday.

I won’t believe any list or names unless they can show me on what page the names are listed.

Some things that are in there include Prince Andrew and something with young girls and puppets????

Bill Clinton admitting to one of the plaintiffs that “he likes his girls young” which shouldn’t surprise anyone.

I mean along with Prince Andrew he’s the biggest name that actually seems to have allegations against him and he knows probably so many other people.

Clinton just was a close friend that admitted to one of the victims that he liked his girls young.

There is no way we’re ever going to get every name and information on what all those people actually did. But more document drops will happen in the future.

I’m just saying you can’t be at Epstein parties telling the young girls there who were trafficked that “you like them young” and not be sexually assaulting and raping them.

(Trump was never implicated to rape anyone nor was he there)

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TexBritta's avatar

I didn’t realize he was a creep but I guess we are finding out the demons every day. It’s going to be interesting about Diddy Doo and now I heard it’s up to 150 plus victims. He’s toast!

Alzaebo's avatar

One protest: the triumph of the wicked empire of evil was "the Russians lobbing shells into the heart of Berlin in late April, 1945."

Think of what you will have to do to end this darkness.

Do you think the German people were lesser than you?

Than all of us who were forced, instead, to drink at Satan's fountain of lies.

Who believed that the things they told us were true.

Why you drank of those many lies, and exulted in your moral righteousness, is because you were unwittingly made complicit. Trauma conditioning forces one to accept either complicity in a crime too terrible to contemplate, or to submit, and find relief in the false inversion of "good", that one fights on the side of "good", when that "good" in reality is only a mask.

VHMan's avatar

I’m confused: “the Russians lobbing shells into the heart of Berlin…”? Sorry. What’s the connection to these atrocities?

Curtis's avatar

I disagree with you regarding Epstein being murdered. He's worth much more to TPTB alive than dead, but secure.

Jay Skywatcher's avatar

I also suspicion that he is alive.

Letsrock's avatar

The 'corpse' on the guernsey clearly wasn't Epstein.

KateK8's avatar

But God.

"The God Who Sees", named 'El Roi' in Hebrew, says in Isaiah 28:18 "Your agreements with Death (ritual offerings to the Death Cult demi-gods for protection, like the mafia) will not save you". Whooop!

God's Fierce & Furious Love will roll over and cover His children in this Passover season. While the same Blood of the Lamb slain before the foundations of the Earth burns away the false coverings and dross trying to keep the rest of His creation from restoration and reconcilliation with Him.

Isaiah 28:18

New King James Version

Your covenant with death will be annulled, And your agreement with Sheol will not stand; When the overflowing scourge passes through, Then you will be trampled down by it.

New American Standard Bible

“Your covenant with death will be canceled, And your pact with Sheol will not stand; When the gushing flood passes through, Then you will become its trampling ground.

New International Version

Your covenant with death will be annulled; your agreement with the realm of the dead will not stand. When the overwhelming scourge sweeps by, you will be beaten down by it.

New Living Translation

I will cancel the bargain you made to cheat death, and I will overturn your deal to dodge the grave. When the terrible enemy sweeps through, you will be trampled into the ground.

Connie's avatar

That’s the problem I struggle with right there, all these versions of the Bible!

KateK8's avatar

Yep, common struggle/hunger with me and my peeps too. I use different translations for revelation on particular themes (beauty, power, justice, history, fathering, care, etc.). A prayer ministry that leverages the authority in being a co-heir in Christ and the fullness of sonship I'm tracking with is fond of the Francois du Toit's "Mirror Bible". That translation's not complete (yet), and may be best used for my practice as a spice and desert adjunct, once I've fully absorbed the classic texts. Happy Hunting :-)

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Elsie E Connelly's avatar

I am getting the Geneva Bible. Have KJV.

RidgeCoyote’s Howling's avatar

They have to hold onto it somehow, it’s their levers against the coming congressional sweep of the FBI. State Security guys know how to protect themselves, just ask Vladimir Putin

Michael Koopman's avatar

Few are sane enough to understand that Putin’s self interest and … let’s pick a random name … Hillary’s self interest are not really that greatly separated.

Clintons still can claim a higher body count, since Ukraine hasn’t caught up with US carpet bombing numbers, yet. And most certainly in terms of individual hits on whistle blowers, Putin has a lot of catch up work to make the numbers.

Letsrock's avatar

Except HRC already deceased.

Michael Koopman's avatar

Did you by chance meet his Russian paymaster? The one who was keeping all those Tienanmen Square refugees who never received refugee status?

Was that you getting him all fired up by blasting beats outside his office complex?

Did you get a cut in the HK organ trade profits?

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Lunch with Hezbollah? No, but I was in a lunchroom with an early leader. Ted Kennedy knew him and said some incoherent words after I thanked him in Gaelic, actually. Another language I don’t speak. But I did hear a lot of it around me at one point when I was very young. Must have been embedded knowledge.

Or Hillary? I crashed a lunch both she and “Dr. Jill” - who was probably still working on that PhD then - attended. Was in Virginia and just pulled in a little lunch spot. Actually a pretty large restaurant where there was some special pot boiling downstairs in the “cave” area. Wasn’t invited downstairs but did have a downstairs guest come up and inquire about me.

He was too drunk, probably on Pelosi’s vodka. They were celebrating the missed appointment my colleague and I had with a principal engineer. Hard to make your appointment when the person you were to meet had been exploded in his office the night before your appointment.

But the downstairs room guests were enjoying the “peace” they found by his demise with some foreign visitors. The evidence he had collected might have put a few of them in golf prison for many, many eighteen holes.

And, yes, it was because the celebration was very much a satanic ritual that I was called to make my presence known at - lunch with Hillary.

What exactly is your point about the self interests of these clown world greats?

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Michael Koopman's avatar

Never did have lunch with Putin. But was in the same small men’s room with he and Gorbachev when Putin was his little protege. There were some cracks in Russian that I wouldn’t have likely understood unless I had been immersed in Russian for quite some time. Not knowing any Russian my understanding of what they were laughing about is nada.

But that was long before the revolution and Yeltsin or Gorbachev writing Perestroika. So where Putin went from who he was as that little protege to the Soviet premier is a difficult calculus, no doubt.

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wilson's avatar

but no one ever does. Curious that.

Letsrock's avatar

Nor do they do Hamas or Hezbollah terrorists.

max's avatar

Who do you think has been collecting the videos all along?

Letsrock's avatar

John Mark Dougan knows where copies are stashed.

Duchess's avatar

And they are destroying tapes as we speak cause obama is a cia asset and his w8fe still has a dong.

Jln's avatar

This is horrifying and tragic for all involved, but it’s been going on for years in Hollywood, way before Diddy was even born. So we have to ask ourselves why now? Why isn’t the same thing happening to people that attended Epstein’s Island?

Epstein was assassinated in jail and Maxwell was charged and convicted yet we don’t know anything about the victims of that while this gets out, searches are happening and people are being questioned. It’s great that this is getting out and hopefully those who committed these crimes will be charged. However why isn’t this happening in the Epstein world?

Elizabeth Schneider's avatar

“It’s been going on for years in Hollywood, way before Diddy was even born.” Indeed, it has. My father was a VP for Capitol Records. People tended to think it was some sort of awesome and would say “you’re crazy” when I responded that it is evil. I would like to add my “I told you so” at this point. Nothing “awesome” about it.

jay's avatar

their depths of depravity are awesome.

Elsie E Connelly's avatar

Don't give them any credit

The Bodysnatchers's avatar

Too many at the top are involved I'm guessing, but yeah, why now? Cathy O'Brien's book back in the 90s named many politicians including more than one president. And some names there keep cropping up now.

Candis's avatar

Why now? Maybe it took decades to break into the consciousness of the 100th monkey to the point that these accusations wouldn't be laughed off and ignored. I still can't quite believe it, but the testimonials sure seem to be genuine and convincing.

Veronica Evans's avatar

Ally Carter’s videos - especially the very recent live broadcast she did on Telegram as well as the Stew Peters interview done a couple of years ago - are too compelling to be fabricated. (S.P. is most often rude & abrasive. Yet he never handled any his guests with as much respect, patience, & sympathy as he did Ally). Have yet to see Ally’s interview w/ Maria Zee which she mentioned in her Telegram message.

It’s time to also go after our very own CIA (& FBI?) who are, and have been, trafficking children using MK Ultra & Satanic Ritual Abuse to create Manchurian Candidates for ultimate control & manipulation. No doubt these poor victims are being used in false flags.

If people haven’t watched the original film “The Manchurian Candidate” w/ Laurence Harvey Frank Sinatra, & Angela Lansbury you’ve missed an exceptionally riveting, well-acted production. The script & direction are stellar. The movie was set to be released but when Kennedy was assassinated it was scrapped. One of the most memorable scenes is the brainwashing of the captured American soldiers. Absolute genius in the creative way it was depicted! A MUST SEE.

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It's not just Hollywood. Like Ally said, this is all around YOU. This is in our own back yard.

https://concernedweldcitizen.substack.com/p/gps-tracks-5-year-old-in-public-school

Letsrock's avatar

I've heard mixed things about Ally's veracity. I don't completely believe her.

ConcernedCitizen's avatar

I don't completely believe her either. But I met this 5 year old girl who told me what was happening to her and her friends in school. They traffic them right out of schools during the school day. They do it in preschools too. Look into Ted Gunderson's exposure of this. He's a reliable voice (dead now, of course. They poisoned him)

The best lies contain the most truth. She is speaking some truth, and it would behoove is to get out kids out of public schools.

Watch my government completely ignore these 2 speakers who exposed the operation. Nothing screams guilty quit like their reaction. Link goes directly to timestamp.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5rmHnA0UWU&t=1660s

Elizabeth Schneider's avatar

I honestly think most people simply do not want to know. Authors have written books such as Nick Bryant’s The Franklin Scandal: A Story of Powerbrokers, Child Abuse and Betrayal. There have been writers/reporters who have been murdered for speaking about it, too. From direct experience, there are many who would rather just enjoy the entertainment and don’t want to know. My father used to tell me some stories when he was drinking that no daughter ever wants to hear, though, so some wild shit has been going on for decades. My father’s group included Bob Seger, Natalie and Nat King Cole, Doobie Brothers, George Harrison. I am not saying those folks were doing wack things….that’s just the era he was involved in. He used to tell me about parties he attended and all I could say was, “it’s a wonder you are alive to tell me the tale.” until he was not anymore.

Wild Bill's avatar

Hollywood Nights, eh?

"many who would rather just enjoy the entertainment and don’t want to know." -- reminds me of 'Bread and Circuses.' Worked for the Romans 2000 years ago, seems human nature hasn't changed much.

Rose's avatar

TPTB are just playing with us and laughing. The build-up to the election and all the theatrics involved are just Grand Satanic Theater. If you back-up until you see the whole picture like in on of those opaque paintings where nothing is clear until you let the real picture develop. Then and only then will you see how monstrous all this is. I put my full focus on my Creator, God himself and never vary from his truth. the public have veils over their eyes and compartmenalize the extreme corruption to the extent that they can accept it without having to disturb their lives. Go down the rabbit hole and know that where this extreme evil lives, God is the only savior that will pull us out. Continue to be deluded and deceived and the devil will keep dancing with you. An excellent website to know the truth is

vigilantcitizen.com.

Heather Boylen's avatar

I love that site too, well written with a sly sense of humor about its dark subject at times.

Netty's avatar

Yes! Vigilant Citizen woke me up. I knew things in the entertainment industry was evil, but not to the level of extent I now know. Wake up and call on Jesus as your Lord and Savior before its too late.

Elizabeth Schneider's avatar

You are so right-nothing changed.

wilson's avatar

part of the not wanting to hear is that nothing ever happens or seldom happens to the vile entities who do these things. So you nod and move on and hope that maybe this isn't true. That this level of evil can't really be happening. because it's impossible to believe.

Letsrock's avatar

'Normal' people's minds just don't and can't go there

Stephen Verchinski's avatar

Derrick Broze is running with the ritual abuse scandal in Utah.

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Letsrock's avatar

It's not just the US.

anacara's avatar

Exactly. It had to happen some time. Secrets take time to emerge.

KateK8's avatar

Brice Taylor's "Thanks for the Memories" FREE pdf is an easier read and a helpful corrollary to Cathy O'Brians testimony. Brice Taylor (pen name for her real name, Sue Ford) lays out the Entertainment-Sports-Politics chess game in a way that you cant help but see the repeating patterns and profiles.

https://archive.org/details/brice-taylor-thanks-for-the-memories_202403

Heather Boylen's avatar

You know I was bothered by that too but someone pointed out to me that Satanists routinely traumatize their victims by dressing as someone else in masks or as Jesus so they think those personas are the ones hurting them. It is possible someone used a mask of a president to rape Cathy O’Brien when she was being drugged and raped.

Ellen's avatar

jeez these kinds of things never occur to me but of course that is totally possible.

The Bodysnatchers's avatar

Yes, others 'remembered' Queen Elizabeth being there and turning into a lizard etc. Sounds a lot like a combination of drugs and masks.

Letsrock's avatar

They used the Jews to hide behind for millenia hence antisemitism.

macDuff's avatar

why do you believe that the body found in that jail was actually Epstein? You think people like him end up in prison? You do remember how saddam hussein's wife said after the fake execution that the person who was executed was not her husband. Stop believing the press. They still want us to believe that doofuses walked on the moon and that the wtc towers fell down via gravity even though the seismic data shows that to be more horse manure.

Jln's avatar

Very good point.

Paul B. Cohen's avatar

Stop believing lies that make you feel powerful instead of the weak failure you know yourself to be. Your only path to redemption is facing yourself in the face of the Truth.

Heather Boylen's avatar

What? How is that believing lies? Why are you so brusque with someone who is a stranger to you?

Paul B. Cohen's avatar

How is that believing lies, Heather? Not sure what you're asking. How macDuff believes lies is just as I put it - self-validation and security in himself rather than the Truth that reveals his weakness. But if you're asking how are those lies, well, that's like shooting fish in a barrel.

Epstein's death isn't in dispute at all. What is in dispute is HOW he died.

Men on the moon? If NASA faked the moon landing, why was it necessary to risk exposure doing it 5 TIMES? And how did they get and keep the complicity of all the hardworking and proud men to participate in such a grandiose lie? That is a monstrous and ridiculous ask. Plainly the simple truth is that they did what they report they did.

As for 9/11, anyone who doesn't think believe we were attacked by Islamic jihadists is delusional. There's no proof of an inside job, only unsupported allegations and disproven theories. All logic and sound reason argue against it. (That's not to exonerate our governmental agencies in the US for criminal activity, for which there is plenty of evidence in many arenas.)

MacDuff belittles men as "doofuses "who ventured their lives to advance humanity and implicates them as liars. MacDuff ridicules without proof and slanders without understanding. He not only deserves, but is served well by some brusqueness. He sows for much harder things.

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Sorry, I find it absurd that our government stole a billion? from us, it just went “missing “ per Donald Rumsfeld and the Pentagon gets destroyed the day before it’s supposed to be discussed. And they “found” the passports within blocks of the tower. And the weird chanting of words by the students right before Bush told about the towers. And the owner of the towers taking out the biggest insurance policy ever, these are way too many coincidences to be coincidence to begin with. It’s nonsense.

wilson's avatar

the figure the pentagon couldn't account for was around 2 trillion. There are too many serious un answered questions about 9/11 to ever believe the official narrative.

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macDuff's avatar

leave Paul alone, he's found god. So he's good now.

Donna Ruth's avatar

Speaking of brusque ...

Alzaebo's avatar

macDuff left off the /sarc sarcasm tag.

It's a Scots thing, they play a bit rough. In a good-hearted way.

macDuff's avatar

golly Paul, you're such a philosopher!

Fred Richmond's avatar

We still haven't seen any of the Epstein evidence

BTeboe's avatar

I still think that's because when the FBI rounded up all the evidence they knew they had a treasure trove of material they could use for blackmail as well. Look at how corrupt our law and intelligence agencies have become.

Debbie Wagner's avatar

I actually think it’s worse than that. I believe the FBI was the instigator of Epstein Island. I believe Epstein, et al, were recruited to lure in all the participants so they could be filmed and blackmailed for ultimate control. Epstein/Maxwell were pawns, just playing parts in the FBI plan to exercise control over government, Hollywood, and corporations through blackmailing the highest ranking officials. This is the actual “deep state” at work.

Elizabeth Schneider's avatar

Catherine Austin Fitts speaks about control files on big players. I do believe she is accurate in that regard.

Candis's avatar

Yes, she has been referencing this in her presentations for years.

Frederick's avatar

Many moons ago I had the bad luck of finding myself looking into the abyss as part of my professional responsibilities. I knew that the abyss was looking back at me. One constant, never failing tell of the abyss, no matter the costume, was the need, the desire, the lust for recognition. The wearers of the costumes needed a match maker. A talent scout, a liar of so immense proportions that these lustful people, even in their wildest lusts and pretense, could not see the boundaries between truth and falsehood. Jeffery Epstein was such a match maker and there are and were others. But the tell, the unfailing give away is the desire for recognition. The FBI is a tool, not much of a match maker.

Debbie Wagner's avatar

Yes. Epstein/Maxwell were pawns of the FBI and the FBI is the pawn of the globalists.

This goes way up the chain.

jay's avatar

why do you believe that Epstein was assassinate or was in jail? Because you read it in the same press that wrote "back and to the left" 61 years ago?

Letsrock's avatar

The guilty didn't allow exposure. This time there's way more witnesses willing to talk.

wilson's avatar

good question. Maybe the lizards/beasts in human suits are doing some infighting and epstein is the previous cover up.

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Elizabeth Schneider's avatar

While people are focused on what celebrities are up to, they are not focused upon the potential for central bank digital currency, the invasion. That is concerning.

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Elizabeth Schneider's avatar

I think you are right. I hadn’t considered that it’s part of a demoralization process and people do see….I hear a lot about football season a lot still. Or golf. Pretty much the last things on my personal radar at this juncture. It’s all reminiscent of the Titanic scene when the band plays while folks scurry around on the deck prior to it sinking like a stone.

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And what made the Titanic sinking so much more predictive is that it was the Oceanic which sunk - it was an Insurance fraud too - the Oceanic was doomed damaged so they swopped the two ships in the shipping yard, and the "Titanic accident" was staged to get rid of some people too. Beyond evil what those can do who sold their souls to the devil.

Elizabeth Schneider's avatar

You have a good point. I don’t have to research it because my father lived it but you are correct in that it will do not good to chatter on about it. I think what goes on in our own homes and neighborhoods is infinitely more important. I used to be naive and think I could change the system somehow. It turns out I can/could only change myself, with whom I interact, how I spend my money and time. Your point is well taken for sure.

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Donna Ruth's avatar

There is a pedagogical saying: "Repetitio est mater studiorum." Repetition (or review) is the mother of learning. We learn best when material is presented, re-presented, and, better yet, presented in a new format. I believe that this information re-re-re-represented over the years may now finally be absorbed.

Alzaebo's avatar

Nicely done! Let us hope we are reaching a preference cascade, where it is socially commendable to see such subterranean underpinnings, rather than demanding we be unduly "fair" or give people who can harm us "the benefit of the doubt" or "the respect due the office."

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I'd give a "like" but, alas, this comment was clean clear over my puny bear-brained head :^)

Jane Hodgins's avatar

" ... and the rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew and beat against that house, and it fell; and great was the fall of it.”

Lord, have mercy. Christ, have mercy. Lord, have mercy. Unspeakable crimes against vulnerable children by the rich and mighty. Millstones.

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Jane Hodgins's avatar

Lullybird, I don't like your disrespect of those of us who have faith in God: "Such crap," "cop out crap," "this same garbage," etc. You seem to blame God for sinners' abominations. You've got it all upside down.

David Smith's avatar

May God grant that the FBI actually comes through - that this gets too big and out of control. The top of that cesspool (the FBI) is clearly complicit, but there have to be a lot of foot soldiers who are part of it for the right reasons.

And, as always, Elizabeth, watch your 6 and everyone, don't feed the trolls. And may God have mercy on all our souls. This is sure to get worse before it gets better.

Anthony James Hall's avatar

The FBI is an extension of the Democratic Party and international Zionism. It is not a law enforcement agency at all. It is a political spin doctoring agency that has a major role in the conduct and protection of much organized crime. The FBI is a partner of the ADL which performs many "law enforcement" functions..... with all due respect to the well intentioned "foot soldiers."

ScottMcFly's avatar

Likely the trail will also lead to the Mossad.

Letsrock's avatar

Mossad aka CIA, MI5 MI 6. Zionism has nothing to do w it. Khazarian Mafia does.

John R. Grout's avatar

Go away, agent of Satan. Your anti-“Zionism” shows you are on the Nazi side.

Alexander Scipio's avatar

Will the FBI come through? Who knows? Certainly not under Harris. & since Trump’s name is there, arguably not under Trump.

Rick's avatar

I’m not happy to see Trump’s name either, BUT

BUT

It’s possible to be invited to an event and imagine what it will be and then discover with disgust the reality… AND

Then run away from it with vomit slowly coming up.

Video tapes of satanic rituals are a different matter.

I have to think and want to think that they have NO tapes of Trump doing anything wrong.

Trump invited the Clintons to his wedding. Does that make him a Clinton toady ?

No.

As many here are suggesting, the blackmail factor here is off the charts. How many congress and others in high positions (bill gates etc) are easily controlled if a tape shows them child molesting.

Wild Bill's avatar

How do you think Obama got John Roberts to 'OK' Obamacare?

[They] obviously had something on him (Roberts). "We'll let you know when we need you to come through for us."

The whole mess is a giant crime family.

Letsrock's avatar

And Roberts 'adopted' kids???

Jo Highet's avatar

Yep - dirty trick squad had the goods on him if I recall.

Ohio Deb's avatar

Epstein brought the two children from Ireland for the Roberts.(I didn’t say bought)

Jay Skywatcher's avatar

Firmly believe Obama was behind the murder of and coverup of a Supreme Court Justice.

Tom's avatar

Scalia, I suspect.

Ohio Deb's avatar

Yes, a hunting lodge..

Letsrock's avatar

And his chef, among others.

Alzaebo's avatar

There's the possibility of entrapment. That's why Epstein made sure he was in the shot with so many celebs and pajundrums, so he could claim their involvement.

I can only pray Trump's name on the list is a poison pill, casting doubt on the legitimacy of the rest (obvious as they are), or that he was invited, as Nixon was to the Bohemian Grove, and, like Nixon, deeply regretted that he even stepped past the front gate, or listened to the powerful people extending the invitation (they certainly wouldn't tell him much, if anything.)

Letsrock's avatar

Had Trump engaged w them he'd have been long gone. Duh.

Gotmoxie's avatar

Everyone knows that DJT is germophovic. He washes his hands after every meet-and-greet.

Letsrock's avatar

He was also the only one to help authorities indict Epstein.

Donna Ruth's avatar

Had anyone considered that DJT has had a plan since the days of the Rona Barrett interview - and quietly infiltrated the Hollywood scene, most specifically through the casinos and his show The Apprentice? He was the darling of the lib lefty elites - beloved, and quite likely a confidante of many.

Alzaebo's avatar

I strongly agree. Infiltration as you posit seems very likely: know the enemy that one might best defeat him. Regular dealings with different Mobs in venues all over the world means Trump is quite savvy about such things. (The former CEO of Exxon related in an interview how he had to do the same thing; you take the cards you find, and still make the play work.)

Trump also strongly supported various private anti-trafficking projects, and I believe promoted anti-trafficking legislation.

As further evidence, note that Justin Bieber is also listed...but he was not an organizer, nor did he keep the faith. That's why I think he and his girlfriend received "vaxxine" jabs that partially paralyzed them, as retaliation by TPTB. (I think something similar, an "accident", happened recently to Jamie Foxx as well, who was making noises. How many others on that list have been hit?)

Now the TBTB are taking shots at Trump, who went the HCQ/Ivermectin route, avoiding the clot shot.

TexBritta's avatar

A list is just a list. Anyone can write a list and write an article but the real evidence (if people care to look) are the trial court transcripts.

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/24253239-1324-epstein-documents-943-pages

Prince Andrew is the first one so far but we knew that.

It’s looking like around 950 pages spread out across 40 attachments.

Clinton is named in attachment 4.

Clinton and Steven Hawking.

David Copperfield named.

Trump was named and Ghislane said he didn’t receive a massage.

And apparently George Lucas didn’t either because they were named close together but were said to not have received anything.

Dershowitz is mentioned over 100 times, but he was counsel for Epstein so who knows.

He’s mentioned the most so I think he for sure did something to the girls.

Most of the names are the girls who were trafficked.

I don’t think anything implicates Trump on the island.

Michael Jackson was mentioned twice as being at Epstein parties.

Trump mentioned twice as well. One time as never getting a massage, and one time as a reference to “if they can’t land the plane they will call Trump and they can land at his property” or something of that nature.

Only time Trump is mentioned in the docs that dropped yesterday.

I won’t believe any list or names unless they can show me on what page the names are listed.

Some things that are in there include Prince Andrew and something with young girls and puppets????

Bill Clinton admitting to one of the plaintiffs that “he likes his girls young” which shouldn’t surprise anyone.

I mean along with Prince Andrew he’s the biggest name that actually seems to have allegations against him and he knows probably so many other people.

Clinton just was a close friend that admitted to one of the victims that he liked his girls young.

There is no way we’re ever going to get every name and information on what all those people actually did. But more document drops will happen in the future.

I’m just saying you can’t be at Epstein parties telling the young girls there who were trafficked that “you like them young” and not be sexually assaulting and raping them.

(Trump was never implicated as raping anyone nor on the island.)

VHMan's avatar

And may God have mercy on our souls. That He should have mercy on us is a bridge too far.

Jane Hodgins's avatar

Today is Michaelmas, the Feast Day of St. Michael the Archangel, Guardian of the Church and God's Chosen People and Warrior against evil.

St. Michael, the Archangel,

defend us in this fierce day of battle.

Be our defense against the wickedness and snares of the Devil.

May God rebuke him, we humbly pray,

and do thou,

O Prince of the heavenly hosts,

by the power of God,

thrust into hell Satan,

and all the evil spirits,

who prowl through the world

seeking the ruin of souls. Amen.

mpb's avatar

Entry of "Crazy Days and Nights" has been offering cryptic crumbs on this activity for years. Anons have sussed out the details, only to be dismissed (by the perpetrators) as internet cranks.

The whole house of cards is about to come down and they know it. Think of the unhinged rantings of Hollywood luminaries such as Rob Reiner and the Two Minutes of Hate each weeknight in the form of late night "entertainment." They're a bit edgy these days.

This 'issue' is much more widespread than Hollywood, too. Remember the Madison Cawthorn disclosure about Washington, DC? He had to "go," through the "ballot box." (Still think elections are not rigged?)

The upcoming election is of great consequence. Those with much to hide know it all to well.

Wild Bill's avatar

Truly good vs. evil.

"The board is set, the pieces are moving. We come to it at last...

The great battle of our time."

-- J. R. R. Tolkien, Gandalf, The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King

Kenneth J Hinnenkamp's avatar

Great post Elizabeth. Thanks.

Áine's avatar

God is working. The tower of Babylon is starting to crumble.

arrotsevni's avatar

Transparency is the only cure for this. Very disturbing but thank you for adding yourself to the voices exposing this. The more people speaking out, the healthier society can become as a higher cultural norm is fostered. Culture of respect for individuals has degraded at so many levels. I see a huge turn for the better in this and elsewhere. Culture and politics are intimately intertwined. It requires a deep reshuffling periodically to resurrect fundamental personal responsibility and responsibility towards others. We need much more exposure of this behavior. But, it appears to be spilling out.

ALtab's avatar

FINALLY we are getting to the core evil perpetrated by the cabal and their minions, establishment by the evil enforcing CIA who trained (likely still using MKULTRA) the heads as Clive, Diddly, Ophah, Epstein, etc. we are finally getting to see the connections of all of this, including the so-called child protective services. This worship of Baal, the transgender Baphomet, sitting in for Satan, lead to the rituals and will likely soon…lead to Obama, Clinton, the political elites in DC and the Vatican who Satan has used to dupe millions into believing they worship Christ.

It’s always been about the children. This will unite millions and likely lead to Q’s suicide weekend for many of the celebrity class. Pray for the victims.

Blessings.🙏🙏

Wild Bill's avatar

"Be of sober spirit, be on the alert. Your adversary, the devil, prowls around like a roaring lion, seeking someone to devour."

-- 1 Peter 5:8 (NASB)

Robert Lime's avatar

Q.

Holy crap, isn't reality awful enough?

elizabeth nickson's avatar

And the content is crap, not digital bullshit. Independent journalism is thriving without the corporate dead hand. They are responsible fully Madam. The content is crap because the leaders are evil. Leaders are evil because filmmakers cashed in rather than stand up for the most vulnerable.

Men's Media Network's avatar

When the so-called “Pizzagate” child trafficking and ritual abuse scandal was boiling over in Washington DC, all the pieces and personalities (Clintons, Podestas) fit, except for the Pizza Parlor. I suspected the pizzagate narrative was concocted as a red herring, diversion from the true scene of the crimes. The story was meant to make anyone who talked about the issue of child trafficking by celebrities and politicians look like babbling lunatics (Kanye anyone?). This Diddy thing looks like ground zero for what they were hiding all along.

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[Edited for typos and language] I can only report on what I personally investigated. The central characters on social media hustling the Pizzagate narrative were clearly making it up as they went, particularly the dramatic stalking of Alefantis to and from his business and his mother’s house. Towards the end, the same social media shills took us to DC sewer grates where they could “hear the cries of captive children from an underground dungeon.” 🙄 Seriously? Then there was the small caliber shot fired at the pizzeria cash register by an unknown "hater®" to burnish the "Crazy Right Wing Conspiracy" narrative. Meanwhile, the parallel, verifiable, very public story of dozens of children literally stolen out of Haiti by a Clinton Foundation employee Laura Silsby was poo pooed as a “misunderstanding” despite the Haitian indictment. Tell the Pizzagate story to Monica Peterson who was murdered while investigating the Haitian orphan affair in real time. When you examine it all laid out in front of you, it becomes clear Pizzagate was an IC run psy-op designed to let the air out of the Haiti scandal.

Letsrock's avatar

I believe it's Laura Silsby.

Heather Boylen's avatar

I agree with you about Haiti and the Clinton Foundation though. Have you read Prussiagate on Substack here? It is crazy and the research is amazing, it touches on that. Too much about Alefanits being a Rothschild and working to trafficking kids, we are alltoo busy with trying to stay afloat in our day to day to have time to connect all the dots. Please read Prussiagate, I think you will enjoy it.

Men's Media Network's avatar

There should be something like a Godwin’s Law, except for the Rothschilds instead of Hitler, wherever an online right wing conspiracy rears its head.

RidgeCoyote’s Howling's avatar

Yup. Good eye. That was the smokescreen, this is the fire.

Jo Highet's avatar

Comet Ping Pong and James Alefantis definitely fit into the narrative. What am I missing?!

Men's Media Network's avatar

Comet Ping Pong was a concocted narrative deliberately fashioned to take the public and the media off the trail of the Clinton Haiti child trafficking scandal. Alefantis was the IC goon running the con. There were several key shills fanning the social media flames. All one had to do was closely follow those Twitter and Facebook troublemakers to see through the charade

Jo Highet's avatar

Thanks for responding. I have read about both. Just so I’m clear, you’re saying all of Pizzagate is false?

Heather Boylen's avatar

Please, it is certainly not false. Go read Liz Corkin who was mentioned earlier here, she is a writer on Substack and she is one of the earlier writers on Pizzagate. I don’t think you will doubt it if you read her Substack, she has incredible research, it is disturbing and fascinating. Also look at the website Vigilant Citizen. Or Bizchute filmmakers Mouthy Buddha or Mrtruthbomb, their documentaries are as well done as something on HBO . The problem is if you try to research it on Google, they have been paid off to remove most credible info about it so you come up with junk articles. Also read about the Franklin Pedophile Scandal, it is what opened my eyes. It’s hard to go back once you start.

Jo Highet's avatar

Thank you - I read and researched many of those sources as well, and never once doubted that Pizzagate was real after everything I found. I do, however, try to challenge my own beliefs and keep an open mind as new information is presented to avoid any cognitive dissonance as much as one can anymore. I have not read Liz Corkin, but certainly will look her up. Very interested to read her work.

James Felter's avatar

I could only read about Franklin in little bites. It made me ill.

Heather Boylen's avatar

Nope. Go to Bizchute and watch the Pizzagate documentary by Mouthy Buddha or Mrtruthbomb. They are incredibly well researched. Or read Liz Corkin’s Substack here about it. Certainly real.

Men's Media Network's avatar

I’m not here to pop anybody’s bubbles.

tim s's avatar

Jesus taught: Mark 4 "...22 For everything that is hidden will eventually be brought into the open, and every secret will be brought to light. 23 Anyone with ears to hear should listen and understand.”

24 Then he added, “Pay close attention to what you hear. The closer you listen, the more understanding you will be givenc—and you will receive even more. 25 To those who listen to my teaching, more understanding will be given. But for those who are not listening, even what little understanding they have will be taken away from them.”

Diana's avatar

I reckon there are too many politicians involved in the Epstein case that’s why there’s total silence

And Maxwell is probably sitting it out on a desert island !

Dr. Peter and Ginger Breggin's avatar

The photo of Oprah with the very young woman meeting Harvey Weinstein is haunting. So are my memories of coverage surrounding the McMartin Preschool— where the concept of ‘false memory syndrome’ was coined. In retrospect the children were reporting what I’ve now heard again and again from different sources: black robed people- Satanic ceremonies in dark basements and tunnels, rape and killing babies. I believe the false memory syndrome concept shut down mental health professionals from hearing their clients for decades. - Ginger Breggin

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Additionally: The Ally Carter video is such a testimony to the victims, to the children, who have been the 'party favors' at these celebrity bashes. She calls out Riverside Child Protective Services, too as part of the trafficking network. Wow. No wonder foster kids are put on such high levels of psychiatric drugs. ~ Ginger

elizabeth nickson's avatar

Yes, that was the heart of it to me. I wouldn’t have believed it had I not read or seen a couple dozen other such testimonies about CPS. And churches too.

Joy's avatar

I agree that the McMartin Preschool story being denigrated has had such a terrible impact to psychiatry. Over the years, I have taken care of several people who were SRA and sex trafficked as children. One had a parent who was in law enforcement who trafficked her for years. When I told each of them that I believed them, that recognition alone, they told me was helpful. A lot of people, including mental health professionals, want to look away. I don't and will never look away. Cathy O'brien's stories on the internet for many years and reading the Franklin Cover Up in the 90's before medical school set me right. A few months ago, CPS had an infant of a patient who needed hospitalization for post partum depression. The way that the court ran with such callousness, I had a bad feeling that the goal was to keep this baby away from the Mom permanently. Every hearing that was had from the hospital, many female staff showed up. I let the public defender know that there were many eyes on that case and we would not be looking away. Baby and mom were eventually reunited.

Letsrock's avatar

👍Bravo Joy! Good on you and thank you for your compassion and a truth seeker.

Pippi Smythe's avatar

Yes, it was a PsyOp. The leaders who debunked the children's claims had themselves been accused by their own daughter. After that, if anyone tried to tell their family of childhood abuse, those in denial would scream “False Memory Syndrome”.

Freedom Fox's avatar

From my experience inside the belly of the beast of politics I'd believe it, most of it. I saw what I saw from a safe distance, so it wasn't everything that only those deep enough in saw. But pattern recognition, personalities, prosperities and problems experienced in it by many like Madison Cawthorne gives the sordid tales the ring of truth.

And we know Big Mike Obama is packing, the penis tuck underwear has slipped enough times for the camera to know, even before Joan Rivers was off'd for telling the truth everyone in those circles knows.

That said, the name, "Trump" on that list makes no sense. I mean, I don't put it past anybody in power, even the designated hero of our political story. But with all the dirt they've dug up to leave that stone unturned is odd. And the fact that there isn't one single Trump supporter on that list, not one who's publicly declared their support for him makes his inclusion on it an outlier. Which makes me suspect it's only there as a slanderous drive-by association. It doesn't fit. And if one name doesn't fit then surely there's others similarly slandered.

Which means take the names listed with a grain of salt. This isn't to deny the allegations, I know much is true. But not all are guilty as charged. Some true innocents may be included for other, nefarious reasons. Be mindful of that before you give your mind fully over to this expose.

bvd9701's avatar

Yes, Trump is on that list…but WHICH Trump?

My guess is Ivanka.

Remember, in her younger days, she aspired to a modeling/fashion career, so she may have been traveling in similar social circles.

Freedom Fox's avatar

Or the nasty sister. Or the showiest son. Or none.

TexBritta's avatar

It’s just a damn list. Anyone can write a list and make it go viral and anyone can write a fake article.

Read the real documentation. The court trial transcripts:

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/24253239-1324-epstein-documents-943-pages

Prince Andrew is the first one so far but we knew that.

It’s looking like around 950 pages spread out across 40 attachments.

Clinton is named in attachment 4.

Clinton and Steven Hawking.

David Copperfield named.

Trump was named and Ghislane said he didn’t receive a massage.

And apparently George Lucas didn’t either because they were named close together but were said to not have received anything.

Dershowitz is mentioned over 100 times, but he was counsel for Epstein so who knows.

He’s mentioned the most so I think he for sure did something to the girls.

Most of the names are the girls who were trafficked.

I don’t think anything implicates Trump on the island.

Michael Jackson was mentioned twice as being at Epstein parties.

Trump mentioned twice as well. One time as never getting a massage, and one time as a reference to “if they can’t land the plane they will call Trump and they can land at his property” or something of that nature.

Only time Trump is mentioned in the docs that dropped yesterday.

I won’t believe any list or names unless they can show me on what page the names are listed.

Some things that are in there include Prince Andrew and something with young girls and puppets????

Bill Clinton admitting to one of the plaintiffs that “he likes his girls young” which shouldn’t surprise anyone.

I mean along with Prince Andrew he’s the biggest name that actually seems to have allegations against him and he knows probably so many other people.

Clinton just was a close friend that admitted to one of the victims that he liked his girls young.

There is no way we’re ever going to get every name and information on what all those people actually did. But more document drops will happen in the future.

I’m just saying you can’t be at Epstein parties telling the young girls there who were trafficked that “you like them young” and not be sexually assaulting and raping them.

(Trump was never implicated to rape anyone nor be on the island)

bvd9701's avatar

There’s something very…OFF about Ivanka. And certainly her choice of husband. And her husband’s family.

Ivanka’s brothers subtly show this feeling…without actually saying anything directly. But it’s strongly implied. The brothers disapprove.

Also, the way Ivanka installed herself in the White House as ersatz “first lady” of Daddy’s new Administration in a shameless show of contempt and disrespect toward Melania - the LEGITIMATE First Lady - was really beyond the pale.

After that exhibition of naked chutzpah and vulgarity, I don’t have any difficulty imagining her at these parties in California.