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Jupplandia's avatar

This is a really brilliant piece, combining searing moral commentary with close and detailed evidence citation. It is both wonderful and depressing. I covered some of this in my book on Gates, especially the misanthropy of the Green movement. It’s a deeply anti human, irrational, hate filled creed.

Blaze Nathan's avatar

Absolutely brilliant analysis, Elizabeth. Thank you for filling the gaping hole with truthful information and connecting the dots so well. You are a treasure. Never give up!

Phar Percheron's avatar

It is a stunning expose. I couldn't stop reading. thank God for retirement, so I wasn't late for work!

I already know more about Bill Gates than I want to. But I did enjoy Jim Lee's video " Bill Gates hates trees " https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=m526Myctkfc&t=2878s&pp=ygUlQmlsbCBHYXRlcyBoYXRlcyB0cmVlcyBjbGltYXRlIHZpZXdlcg%3D%3D

Also, Jim Lee trashes the greenhouse gas idea, and substitutes the effect of cirrus clouds generated by contrails... what do you think?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EivA3waCBWw

Jupplandia's avatar

From memory wasn’t there a Nobel winner who pointed out that the modelling used to support the doomsday scenario climate predictions completely ignored the effects and physics of cloud formation?

Kate Finis's avatar

John Clauser, for Physics, in 2022. We saw him with Jan Jekielik on American Thought Leaders: https://www.theepochtimes.com/epochtv/nobel-laureate-john-clauser-there-is-no-climate-emergency-climate-models-miss-one-key-variable-5486017

Jupplandia's avatar

Thanks Kate, I knew there was, I just couldn't recall who off the top of my head.

Irene The Insomniac's avatar

Because “models” work so well for weather, Covid and any other bullshit TPTB want us to believe.

Phar Percheron's avatar

I believe you are right! Kind of a not trivial oversight, right ?

Alan Davis (FlyoverAlinCT)'s avatar

Check out MIT’s Richard Lindzen’s “Infared Iris”.

Good, True & Beautiful's avatar

Haven’t had contrails here in Ireland for at least 15-20 years, it’s Chemtrails day in and day out, so no natural cloud formation for a long time.

Phar Percheron's avatar

So awful. Jim Lee make the case that contrails and chemtrails are the same thing - contrails are *not just water vapor, as the apologists claim. Jet fuel is full of metals, and makes soot when it burns, just like Kerosene. So all contrails are actually chemtrails. Not to say additional chemtrails might be added to the skies for whatever purposes we are not supposed to know about....

Mystic William's avatar

They aren’t the same. Contrails disperse. The sun still shines. Chemtrails don’t. A grid is laid down and a perfectly sunny day becomes overcast. Day in day out.

Mystic William's avatar

A normal contrail might also be a type of chemtrail but that isn’t what we are seeing in my city.

D Burlin's avatar

And they disperse quickly.

Aeron Mack's avatar

Very easy to see the difference between chem- and con- trails when looking at them: contrails, being mostly water vapor, disperse soon after the plane goes by (evaporating quickly in the dry air at this altitude)- while chemtrails spread out to form a thin haze across the entire sky that persists for hours or all day. Another easy way to tell them apart (you may have noticed this when flying in a plane)- contrails happen at 20-30K feet, where most commercial air traffic flies, whereas chemtrails, in order to avoid interfering with commercial traffic, are laid at 50-60K feet.... You can often notice, while flying, the clouds below you, and the chemtrails way above you. Also, we have patents which are public record that describe what the chemtrails contain and and what they are spraying. It's hard to believe there are still people who think chemtrails are not real and happening now. But there we are.

Yang Ming Mountain's avatar

Green house effects as a key driving mechanism in warming the earth is wrong. If you want to know the full explanation, please check out Dr Richard Lindzen’s paper in the following. The explanation is highly technical, because the detailed explanation is accessible only to specialists with strong physics background. I am a specialist in fluid and thermal sciences (a PhD, a professor and a principal engineer with 30+ years of industrial research and development experiences), so I appreciate Lindzen’s work very much.

https://www.thegwpf.org/content/uploads/2022/09/Lindzen-global-warming-narrative.pdf

Phar Percheron's avatar

But you have already told me that I won't understand it, so I think I will pass. Maybe you could comment on Jim Lee's idea that contrails AKA Chemtrails AKA man-made cirrus clouds are actually responsible for some observed warming? Jim Lee also rejects ground level CO2 as a cause of warming.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EivA3waCBWw

Yang Ming Mountain's avatar

You can glance over the article and pick up a few powerful ideas in general.

Substantial formation of clouds can lower the earth temperature, not increase. The earth’s climate is mainly affected by solar radiation and cloud formation caused by cosmic rays. The Milankovich cycles have been successfully used in explaining the major climate changes on earth. In fact, we are going to enter a global cooling period, especially in the northern Hemisphere, approximately in the next 30-40 years.

Phar Percheron's avatar

Here are some resources that make reality a little more accessible, not a brutal slog,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGn-6kGoD0c

https://climateviewer.substack.com/

and offer constructive actions people can apply their energy to.

https://www.saveourskies.org/

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Yang Ming Mountain's avatar

The word “Sustainable” means nothing because nobody knows its true definition. But it gives the moronic people a sense of feeling good. In reality, sustainability means destruction of innocent lives so that only the evil “elites” can enjoy the bounty.

bruce's avatar

I've said this for more than a decade. the climate has always changed [long before autos, big industry] as our planet shifts on its axis about every 25,000 years it creates change but the Nanny State & doomsayers are so full of themselves they never review climate records beyond last week.

John Kirsch's avatar

When did weather become climate?

When our rulers revived the pagan delusion that humans can change the weather.

They don't believe it but they want us to because it suits their purpose, which is to keep us in eternal subjugation, as Henry Wallace warned in the forties.

Our enemies -- never doubt that they are our enemies -- are at war with reason because rationality helps us and undermines them.

Don't forget how the rulers persecuted Galileo. Don't forget how our current oppressors persecute those who expose them, like Assange.

It's been this way since Mesopotamia.

Good, True & Beautiful's avatar

It’s not a delusion, weather modification is in full flight (pun intended) for a long time. What is delusional is to think that it’s ok to do it, TPTB seem to think they are God, if it wasn’t so scary it’d be laughable.

Elizabeth's avatar

Even the Pope in Rome thinks he is God. He is all in on this nonsense. He lends credence to this corrupt stunt which will ultimately increase poverty if it is allowed to proceed.

Momcat's avatar

they want us to go back to human sacrifice to appease the climate gods huge numbers of deaths from starvation, freezing, excessive heat, will occur, & they can say "I told you so" instead of being at fault for all the deaths, & the greenies will thank them for saving them from the evil climate.

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Phar Percheron's avatar

Here are some resources that make reality a little more accessible, not a brutal slog,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGn-6kGoD0c

https://climateviewer.substack.com/

and offer constructive actions people can apply their energy to.

https://www.saveourskies.org/

Phar Percheron's avatar

Jim Lee trashes the greenhouse gas idea, and substitutes the effect of cirrus clouds generated by contrails... what do you think?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EivA3waCBWw

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bruce's avatar

Due to space limitations I did not mention the impact other planets have on our weather; they do & this too is never mentioned by the Climate Guards...rain forests are indeed imperative to the health of our planet-good that you pointed this out as well.

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elizabeth nickson's avatar

That is just not how they mine anymore in Canada. This guy, who is blocked, is reciting from an old script, the oil sands showed the world how to clean up mine sites.

Dave Payette's avatar

Congrats on an outstanding essay. Thank you.

Edwin's avatar

Gradual change or a catastrophe is the question.

They have not realized that the climate optimum was 8,500 years ago.

"This month was the hottest ever" nonsense is a bald faced lie.

Antartica continues to cool, despite their predictions.

We are entering a new Ice Age and they continue to speak about global boiling?

Alexander Scipio's avatar

Yup. Solar cycle 26, the one we entered in 2019, is predicted to produce another Dalton-like minimum. We’ll be ice skating again on the Thames while these clowns are arguing about warming.

Edwin's avatar

Whether it does or does not isn't even the question. We are by some counts overdue, by other counts right on schedule, and even if our return to Ice Age conditions is late, it's not 40,000 years late (current prediction of idiots), rather 500 - 1500 years from now, if not now. In the realm of Ice Ages, not even statistically significant.

Alexander Scipio's avatar

Yup. The entire hoax has nothing to do with the climate. It’s all about control and destroying the middle class. Now that the middle class is pushing back in Italy, Netherlands, Oz, etc., it’s about to get interesting ...

Edwin's avatar

Obviously, this may be gradual, till it is not, catastrophe occurs and we're fucked.

Usually high latitude volcanic eruptions occur but not exclusively. such as the one causing the evacuation in Iceland. We simply don't know for sure, and talking about CO2 being a pollutant and trying to do something about it, when we should be doing the opposite is madness. If anything is likely to cause an extinction here on Earth, it will be the crashing of CO2 during the next Ice Age (it trends lower ever glaciation).

Steve Have's avatar

Hi it’s an interesting moment ...

I was looking an a newly arrived item from the Corbett report. This a very pertinent and highly informative report.

Today it contained an interview with a woman call Rosa Koira and talks in great detail of the UN agenda 21.

The information she delivers tells the hidden story of the UN sustainable policies for our planet..

After looking into this agenda Rosa Koira has dismantled she has revealed that it actually isn’t our planet that the architects of this agenda are talking about.

Mr Corbett uses very accurate language that reveals the spirit of this agenda.

The revelations that she shows are the outcomes that your article reveals when you talk of the stealth destruction of so many people worlds that lived amongst the forests

Mr Corbett talks of a book that Rose Koira wrote called wrote called :

Behind The Green Mask ..

It sounds as if everyone should read it ..

Hidden in plain sight in a town near you.!!!? !!!

Jake GC's avatar

Rosa Koire died in June 2021. She was an inspirational warrior for truth. The Natural Blaze website has an “In Memoriam” section that includes some video clips of Rosa explaining how the UN Agenda 21 is intended to hoodwink the public into giving away their freedom - serious stuff!

https://www.naturalblaze.com/2021/06/rosa-koire-in-memoriam.html

Cheeky Gesturton's avatar

Thanks for mentioning Corbett. His documentaries are excellent in giving an overview of where this all has come from.

-Maurice Strong.

-Why Big Oil Conquered the World (part 2 of Rockefeller exposé-don’t miss “How”; part 1)

TriTorch's avatar

One of the climate change fraud's primary is drivers is selectively picked data which only shows a time frame that indicates a trend of warming: https://youtu.be/8455KEDitpU [12:51mins]

"One of the first lessons we learned in grad school was to beware of truncated graphs. Such behavior is typically associated with intentionally trying to "massage" the data. If you torture the data, they WILL confess." TVMADoc

Phar Percheron's avatar

Jim Lee trashes the greenhouse gas idea, and substitutes the effect of cirrus clouds generated by contrails... what do you think?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EivA3waCBWw

TriTorch's avatar

Thank you for the link Phar, I've saved the video. With luck I will find time to watch it.

Phar Percheron's avatar

you are welcome! sometimes I just look for a Jim Lee video to relax my mind and have a laugh.

TriTorch's avatar

That is a bit of respite that all of us in this community could find a good use for. I am glad to know you've found it.

Kathleen Devanney. A human.'s avatar

Wow. I have to reread the whole thing though honestly I don't need the details, I know what you're saying is spot-on. Thank you, will use this as a resource to share.

Brilliant.

Soulminkey's avatar

Yes they lie. Just shrug and ignore them. That is what they (the parasite class) will truly hate. Build your own dream future instead. Where you provide for your own food, educate your own children, with love, and hope. No more fear please.

JulieW's avatar

“Provide your own food? That’s almost as unattainable a goal as net zero! Sorry, I believe ‘hoarding canned goods past their sell-by date” is the best most of us can achieve in that direction. But your essential message to just shrug and ignore them is a powerful one!

Phar Percheron's avatar

thank you! I grew half a cup of peas and two tiny cabbages in my backyard last year. but picking up a six pack of canned salmon whenever I go to Costco is well within my capabilities!

JulieW's avatar

Hear hear for the caned salmon! Only problem I have is my husband is such a big eater I go through my stuff so fast

Dan Hartley's avatar

I wouldn't classify myself as a ‘climate denier’. I have studied the issue for a couple of decades now. Having watched with some amusement the utter obnoxious meanderings of the Doomsday crowd, I would more describe myself as a "You've got to be shitting me” er. In the past five billion years CO2 has been the lead indicator of a warming climate precisely zero times. Actually, it has been more of a lag indicator and that by about 800 years. And just so you know, John Kerry was a traitor to his fellow Vietnam vets and he is a traitor now.

Terry Oldberg's avatar

Dear Elizabeth:

Catastrophic Climate Change is, as you have characterized it, "epic bullshit." This bullshit is, however, currently being swallowed by a great many people and for a reason that is not obvious. The reason is for the measure of a statistical event to be believed by these people to necessarily be a probability even though the peer-reviewed article entitled "Unit Measure Violations in Pattern Recognition" proves this belief to be unwarranted. This belief leads these people to believe that the Bayesian method for extracting a model of a physical system from empirical data is applicable to a climate model though this is not so. This narrative, which is pushed by the United Nations IPCC and, more generally, by those people who wish to impose totalitarian rule over us. In the United States, these people include those politicians who belong to the Democratic Party.

Cordially,

Terry Oldberg

Engineer, Scientist, Public Policy Researcher

Los Altos Hills, California

1-650-618-6636 (mobile)

terry_oldberg@yahoo.com

Sam's avatar

Today, my Yoga teacher said "it's not just our imagination, there's more catastrophic weather now"

HELP ME! It seems like everyone else believes this garbage!

Good, True & Beautiful's avatar

I know and I cannot help myself from responding, I try really heard to not shout in their faces ‘absolute bullshit!!’ My stock answer is, well if they would stop spraying our skies we might get a chance to see what the weather actually is. Be assured I mostly get blank stares.

Phar Percheron's avatar

Jim Lee trashes the greenhouse gas idea, and substitutes the effect of cirrus clouds generated by contrails... what do you think?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EivA3waCBWw

Toby Yull's avatar

In my favourite dream/fantasy, you are a lecturer in both Journalism and Political Science at Uni. Your ability to see the long view is rare.

So thrilled to find this one, particularly, in my Inbox. Thank you Elizabeth

Mystic William's avatar

Nah. Senate. It would pain me to see Elizabeth at a University.

David Smith's avatar

A truly remarkable piece - thank you once again, and thanks so much for mentioning Dr. Curry - she is so important.

I can't help thinking that anyone who hasn't worked in the bush or the mills or the mines simply can't understand the tragedy that BC has become. It breaks my heart thinking about the opportunities that I had in the '70s and my great grandsons don't have now - the chance to earn a decent wage doing a decent day's work.

JRCCreasey©️✅'s avatar

Dr. Judith Curry is a national treasure in Canada, but only amongst the top 🔝 climate experts

c Anderson's avatar

Real men can’t make it now unless they become soy boys.

David Smith's avatar

Real men are just like fat bottomed girls - they make the world go 'round. Never forget that.

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David Smith's avatar

I worked in a galena (lead/zinc) mine in the late '70s in the Kootenays. It wasn't that ecologically pure, but if you're going to have the metals you have to mine them. I'm sure that the processes have improved immensely since those days.

I'm mostly aware of the plans for lithium mines in Saskatchewan. I have a cell phone, several laptops, and several tablets, so I'm a consumer of lithium, so, like anyone who uses similar products, I'm by default endorsing lithium mining.

I'm very skeptical about electric vehicles, at least in the near future, and equally skeptical about using grid-sized lithium ion batteries to patch-over the serious shortcomings in solar or wind electric generations, so in the scheme of things I'm a minor user, but a user anyway.

I'm inclined to think that lithium mines in 3rd world countries are likely to have a worse ecological impact than any in Canada or the US of A. I'm not one for "out of sight, out of mind" or NIMBY, so I'm not out of hand opposed to the mines you mentioned - but I haven't done the research to compare them with any alternatives so I wouldn't say that I "endorse" them.

In other words, if we use lithium ion batteries, we need lithium mines. If we use plastic or kerosene, we need oil wells, if we use...you can take it from there.

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David Smith's avatar

How about using technology that uses lithium cobalt batteries? The Internet, for example? Weather forecasts? Newspapers? Automobiles? Busses? Hospitals? Name it, and there are batteries in the stack.

I'm inclined to think we're kinda stuck...

JRCCreasey©️✅'s avatar

Never stuck. Just haven’t found the right solution yet.

David Smith's avatar

Elizabeth talks a lot about how Gummint Regulationing gets in the way of trying different solutions, but I utterly agree that given creativity and freedom there are solutions for all of these problems. I'm a strong believer in that - my first job out of college was at NASA Goddard just as Apollo started to really work. We can do this, if the */#%@ just get out of our way.

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David Smith's avatar

Well, Gavin, I'll miss you from now on here on the Internet. I have a pretty good idea what my life would have been like pre-Industrial Revolution (my ancestry is poor farmers in West Lincolnshire) let alone too much earlier than that. I was born with an abdominal hernia, and would almost certainly not have survived my first year or two without the benefits of modern medicine. Let's arrange to get together in three or four years and compare notes on life with and without Industrial Civilization.

I lived several years in the mountains without electricity or indoor plumbing, and enjoyed it, but I was in my twenties and in good health. Now in my late seventies I'm pretty attached to good medicine, communication and indoor plumbing, but I'll be interested in how it works for you.

But then, since you aren't going to use the Internet anymore, how will we make contact? Or how will you even see this message? And are you going to take Gavin's Newsletter down, or just not add to it? Oh, well. Bye!

Thumbnail Green's avatar

I am 52. I helped at Green voting centres before I was old enough to vote. I did my permaculture design course in 1989 as an 18 y o. I live in a strawbale house with all the shit chickens fruit the lot. I give a shit and I know this space.

You. Have. Fucking. Nailed. It.

They are not about the environment they are about entrapment and grift and extraction. They think they are gods and can cheat death but bring it on a leash of arrogant, dumb idiocracy.

The Tragedy of the Commons lives in their hearts.

Thank you

Donnamarie Mills's avatar

Great essay. One issue: the author states that green tech has supposedly made the apocalyptic scenarios less likely and needs to be factored in to get a true picture. But green tech is in many ways just as dirty, and its environmental costs need to be factored in-they are as scandalous as the RCP8.5 fraud.

elizabeth nickson's avatar

Curry says this, not I!

Judy Kaplan Warner's avatar

Definitely one of your best if not the very best. Your experience with and knowledge of British Columbia is gold -- a personal story is always compelling.