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pulled us out of vietnam? No. He yielded to public pressure. Last time I saw the public be so strong.

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NO. he got us OUT. Something Johnson could not do because it was an integral part of his policies. Victory is around the corner !! Just look at all the enemy we killed, the massive bombings !!! It wasn't, didn't, couldn't. But wait ! if only we could use more powerful weapons, attack Hanoi, look at that "Tonkin" incident !! Good people of unquestioned bravery and patriotism sent to their deaths so that some corporations and a military industrial complex machine could do their thing. Nixon went against all that and decided, no more, much to the chagrin and opposition of the profiteers and manipulators.

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johnson didn't run because he knew that he would lose for what you just described. So maybe Nixon did that in the hopes of being president again in 1976. Nixon didn't dig out the papers showing that Tonkin was a false flag though he surely could have.

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Exactly !

But the things they got away with in those days, the deceit, the propaganda, all of it costing people their futures, their very lives.

It continues to this day. Eisenhower warned us but nobody quite understood the full implications of his warning.

It is my belief, my hope, that a single issue of such staggering historical import and consequence, the hoarding of captured or recovered technology, who knows from where...really the only thing is that it is all real, will prove the turning point in the overthrow of the clever "Interregnum" which has somehow superseded and controlled the real elected government for decades. A few brave people have come forth and started the wheels of inevitable disclosure turning. The fight to delay that, oblivion it, deny it, disavow it, has begun, with the media in the forefront of posturing deniability.

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Eisenhower? The guy who called the german prisoners of war "disarmed enemy combattants" (or something like that) so that they wouldn't be covered by the geneva convention. Then he turned down the red cross' offer to feed everybody and he put the german soldiers in open fields with fences around them and guards. No buildings. It was winter. They all died of hunger or exposure. They made films with them too, so we'd all believe that they were jews in concentration camps. And they filmed them being pushed by bulldozers into mass graves, again saying it was jews. I saw those films in hebrew school at 12 years old. Sounds pretty psychopathic (the behavior of the hebrew school administrators). Well I'm satisfied that those were germans being pushed into the common graves, because I just looked at the film again for the first time in 50 years and I didn't see a single left inner forearm IBM tattoo on anybody. So they clearly weren't jews in concentration camps.

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He may of relented to public pressure , but the fact is...he is the one who started the draw down. Another may have followed the military's advice and doubled down on failure. Nixon did not.

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I put it more on the kids of the sixties and seventies preferring their lives to their "country". I'm not old enough to have experienced the public reaction to the draft at the time of the "korean conflict". Were people more accepting of this idea of patriotism meaning being ready to lose one's life to defend the interest of psychopathic arms producers and oil producers and patent medicine producers?

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