While I was with a Marine Rifle Company in Vietnam in 1967, we had a reporter and his Japanese cameraman arrive on our resupply helicopter. This particular reporter was a couple of years older than us, had longish blond curly hair and made it very clear from the second that he stepped out of the helo that he despised us. We had had a short fight that night before, and we were preparing for a larger attack against a fortified enemy position later that morning. During the night, two of our Marines had been killed and the VC infiltrator who killed them was himself killed about 8 feet in front of me.
The reporter made a big deal about the dead enemy body and made sure that his cameraman got plenty of pictures of him, while called us "criminals" and raved about how the enemy's body was lying there, unburied.
By this time, we were hard bunch, and we made it clear to him that we were dissatisfied with his presence - and we all had rifles.
Wow. Here’s to hoping he got his ass handed to him before he left country. Showing such a lack of situational awareness has to be the epitome of overt stupidity. It’s a wonder his mom had any kids that survived to adulthood.
People are weak, flawed, etc. So I can often understand, at least on some level, the things they do. What I can't fathom are the things they admit to. For example, "during a famous 1987 seminar on war reporting in which the moderator posited a scenario where the reporters had learned that an American unit was walking into an ambush, both Mike Wallace and Peter Jennings stated that they would not warn the GIs."
Are there any current data on the ratio of generals to enlisted? I can only imagine how it is compared to 1945 or 1952. Thank you again for all you are doing. When a friend or relative requests suggestions on a substack starting point your name is right at the top.
We have more generals and admirals now than we had during WWII with 12 million under arms and those flag officers WON the war. Read that a few years ago and can't exactly remember where I saw this.
“That is OURS. WE PAID FOR IT”. True. All of the cool technology was taken and we are left with the science that poisons us as well as massive freaking debt. We paid for our own poisoning, too. Fabulous…NOT. Thanks for writing this as I, too, am an inquiring mind and would like to know. I have more questions than answers at this point.
You, me and several hundreds of millions of others have the same questions.
It has been a long wait but the answers are coming.
There have been two major insiders who dared speak up, so far, Grusch and Elizondo but others are waiting to tell their story and will. I can't wait for those involved in the illegal secret programs to appear in a courtroom to face charge of treason and for the full exposure of those involved in the past. The historians will have a field day with this one once it gets going.
Actually garbage collectors perform a task that is crucial to the overall health and well being of a clean, orderly society and should be appreciated as well as paid decently for their labor. I honestly can’t say the same for 99.9% of “journalists”.
Dr. Joseph P Farrell, Ph.D. might be an author whose work might interest you, Elizabeth, re: DARPA/UAPs/underground bases. Books are quite provocative in terms of historical analysis (e.g., Hess, Nazi International, …). https://gizadeathstar.com/
The evolution of the journalist’s relationship with the US military is an interesting one. MOCKINGBIRD lite, perhaps.
In 1945 with approximately 12 million men fighting in two major theaters of WWII, there were 6 four star generals and or admirals. Today we have 45 four stars of all ilk's running around with very little to do but screw things up. To understand why this is, one needs hop in the way back machine to 1979/80, then fast travel to 1983 and then ultimately to 4 October 1986 when the Goldwater-Nichols act was signed into law by President Ronald Reagan. The restructure was vast and sweeping and was the most dramatic change in the defense establishment since the National Security Act of 1947. Since then, we have allowed the civilianization of our military. If a young field grade officer of any branch attends a formal military institution, such as Command and Staff College, for every military instructor there is a civilian instructor. After all we don't want the scary mean military types up on Capital Hill frightening the leaders of the free world with nasty words like kill, blast, bomb, burn and destroy on behalf of the American taxpayers. Nope, we need huggable grand dads telling us in flowering word saladeze that all is right with the world as long as we keep finding new wars of choice and opportunity to send the middle, lower middle and working poor kids off to fight for oh say Lindsey Graham or Liz Cheney. We do the fighting and dying, they do the talking. As a young company grade infantry officer in the US Marine Corps in the late 1970's and early '80's many of our senior leaders had fought in the Pacific in WWII, Korea and Viet Nam. They had been platoon and company commanders and understood death and dying on a personal level. They had lead Battalions and Regiments and now Divisions. But they never lost their mojo and innate understanding of just how gruesome war was and is. They imbued in us, a demand to look after our Marines, train hard, and be ready to go out and close with, and destroy by fire and maneuver, the enemy. The American people expected no less from us. Today the current Commandant speaks like Mr. Rogers in french. He and his predecessor denuded the Corps of its armor, artillery, engineers and 1/3 of the infantry. They allowed US Navy to take the floating stock that carries the most powerful fighting force across the seas to a level in which it is at best 30% ready to go to sea. All these retired talking head retirees are a disgrace to their services. They know better. News flash, one morning the American public and the world writ large will wake to hear and see two Gerald R. Ford class nuclear powered aircraft carriers sinking at the waterline, the covering surface force vessels burning and sinking and a Marine ARG/MEU half sunk and in shambles. You think the NEO at Harmid Karzai International Airport was a shit show? You ain't seen nothing yet. You can count on the military brass to do one thing when the carriers are sinking. Blame everyone including the American public for THEIR failure. So, long answer to a short question of the ratio of generals to enlisted? Too many.
When SGM Plumley said "Prepare to defend yourselves" at Ia Drang Joe Galloway got right in there pitching to aid LTC Moore's troopers. RIP, Mr. Galloway.
"Both Mike Wallace and Peter Jennings stated that they would not warn the GIs." Did these idiots think the VC weren't going to shoot them as well as the Soldiers and Marines? Our "esteemed" media is not a friend to anyone in uniform and the generals seem to be more concerned about their press clippings or preparing for that lucrative job in the defense industry after retirement than doing the job we expect. Yes, the grunts are well aware of this lousy situation.
An actual journalist just mentioned this as a legitimate topic...
"What the hell are they doing in underground bases? I’ve seen so much evidence of that I know they exist. What history are they hiding? What is going on in their reverse engineering of alien craft and technology? That is OURS. WE PAID FOR IT."
There. You've seen it. I did not imagine it. An actual experienced journalist just expressed exactly what many of us were thinking is a fully legitimate topic of inquiry as it has been
FOR ABOUT THE LAST EIGHTY F(uncontrollable expletive, apologies)~g years !!!
The rest of her article explains how the cozy relation which exists between the, what shall we call them rather than dignify them with the name of a once great profession...ah yes, here it is,
the JERKALISTS, and the military subvertstablishment can explain the easy disregard, particularly after sworn congressional testimony from experienced Navy pilots, one of them a Top Gun graduate, and from a fully credentialed Pentagon insider and whistleblower.
This stuff, in the era of which Elizabeth speaks where there were real journalists and a healthy distance between the reporters and their subjects, would have been front page news on every major newspaper and network news programs.
But it isn't. despite evidence growing, the story has been ridiculed, disowned, disdained, disregarded even as the defense contractors working within the "gentlemen's coercion" agreements continued to bypass congress and likely the President himself in actions of complete treason against the elected government, actions which, as the long now hourglass of permissability and tolerance slowly runs out, spells doom and jail time for those indulging in the convenience and protection of "defense" largesse and promises of protection and cover. The excuse of "secrecy" does NOT apply to the congress which provides the funding, even with puppets like Rogers in place.
I know! I got excited because I thought Elizabeth was going to discuss the underground bunker subject, what happened?? I reread it to make sure I didn’t miss it but alas it wasn’t there.
We live in the 4th Reich. The demands of the WEF will be followed or the wars will expand. The media and our government demand it. Can anyone explain why the FBI is planning a larger headquarters than the Pentagon?
Against The Corporate Media arrived today. Many thanks for the head-zup! Will make a great stocking stuffer (if Prez-elect Harris permits Christmas)...
While I was with a Marine Rifle Company in Vietnam in 1967, we had a reporter and his Japanese cameraman arrive on our resupply helicopter. This particular reporter was a couple of years older than us, had longish blond curly hair and made it very clear from the second that he stepped out of the helo that he despised us. We had had a short fight that night before, and we were preparing for a larger attack against a fortified enemy position later that morning. During the night, two of our Marines had been killed and the VC infiltrator who killed them was himself killed about 8 feet in front of me.
The reporter made a big deal about the dead enemy body and made sure that his cameraman got plenty of pictures of him, while called us "criminals" and raved about how the enemy's body was lying there, unburied.
By this time, we were hard bunch, and we made it clear to him that we were dissatisfied with his presence - and we all had rifles.
He left very quickly on the next chopper.
Wow. Here’s to hoping he got his ass handed to him before he left country. Showing such a lack of situational awareness has to be the epitome of overt stupidity. It’s a wonder his mom had any kids that survived to adulthood.
Good job!!
People are weak, flawed, etc. So I can often understand, at least on some level, the things they do. What I can't fathom are the things they admit to. For example, "during a famous 1987 seminar on war reporting in which the moderator posited a scenario where the reporters had learned that an American unit was walking into an ambush, both Mike Wallace and Peter Jennings stated that they would not warn the GIs."
Just astonishing.
They are not ashamed to admit such things. Astonishing.
Are there any current data on the ratio of generals to enlisted? I can only imagine how it is compared to 1945 or 1952. Thank you again for all you are doing. When a friend or relative requests suggestions on a substack starting point your name is right at the top.
I don't know about Generals, but we have more Admirals than we have ships, let alone fleets...
We have more generals and admirals now than we had during WWII with 12 million under arms and those flag officers WON the war. Read that a few years ago and can't exactly remember where I saw this.
> You really can't hate them enough.
It's so true. I keep trying, but they keep pushing past what I've mustered.
“That is OURS. WE PAID FOR IT”. True. All of the cool technology was taken and we are left with the science that poisons us as well as massive freaking debt. We paid for our own poisoning, too. Fabulous…NOT. Thanks for writing this as I, too, am an inquiring mind and would like to know. I have more questions than answers at this point.
You, me and several hundreds of millions of others have the same questions.
It has been a long wait but the answers are coming.
There have been two major insiders who dared speak up, so far, Grusch and Elizondo but others are waiting to tell their story and will. I can't wait for those involved in the illegal secret programs to appear in a courtroom to face charge of treason and for the full exposure of those involved in the past. The historians will have a field day with this one once it gets going.
Being a reporter used to be one of the coolest jobs around... Now they're equal to middle management in a low grade firm.
Excellent analogy.
Garbage collectors are another appropriate analogy.
Actually garbage collectors perform a task that is crucial to the overall health and well being of a clean, orderly society and should be appreciated as well as paid decently for their labor. I honestly can’t say the same for 99.9% of “journalists”.
Well played.
Elizabeth- Glad to see your comments again. Haven't for a couple of weeks.
Dr. Joseph P Farrell, Ph.D. might be an author whose work might interest you, Elizabeth, re: DARPA/UAPs/underground bases. Books are quite provocative in terms of historical analysis (e.g., Hess, Nazi International, …). https://gizadeathstar.com/
The evolution of the journalist’s relationship with the US military is an interesting one. MOCKINGBIRD lite, perhaps.
Intriguing.
I may have heard the name somewhere but have not read him yet.
Will look into it.
Thanks for posting !
CJ
His books are excellent. Thanks for calling attention to his work.
I’m not used to encountering one familiar with Joseph’s work—quite a pleasure, I must say.
Dr Farrell is indeed excellent, heard him speak at a Secret Space Program conference back in June '14. I also recommend Richard Dolan.
I saw him at the 2015 SSC in Bastrop, TX, as I recall. 👍
Familiar with Dolan and the breakaway civilization concept. Thx for the reminder.
In 1945 with approximately 12 million men fighting in two major theaters of WWII, there were 6 four star generals and or admirals. Today we have 45 four stars of all ilk's running around with very little to do but screw things up. To understand why this is, one needs hop in the way back machine to 1979/80, then fast travel to 1983 and then ultimately to 4 October 1986 when the Goldwater-Nichols act was signed into law by President Ronald Reagan. The restructure was vast and sweeping and was the most dramatic change in the defense establishment since the National Security Act of 1947. Since then, we have allowed the civilianization of our military. If a young field grade officer of any branch attends a formal military institution, such as Command and Staff College, for every military instructor there is a civilian instructor. After all we don't want the scary mean military types up on Capital Hill frightening the leaders of the free world with nasty words like kill, blast, bomb, burn and destroy on behalf of the American taxpayers. Nope, we need huggable grand dads telling us in flowering word saladeze that all is right with the world as long as we keep finding new wars of choice and opportunity to send the middle, lower middle and working poor kids off to fight for oh say Lindsey Graham or Liz Cheney. We do the fighting and dying, they do the talking. As a young company grade infantry officer in the US Marine Corps in the late 1970's and early '80's many of our senior leaders had fought in the Pacific in WWII, Korea and Viet Nam. They had been platoon and company commanders and understood death and dying on a personal level. They had lead Battalions and Regiments and now Divisions. But they never lost their mojo and innate understanding of just how gruesome war was and is. They imbued in us, a demand to look after our Marines, train hard, and be ready to go out and close with, and destroy by fire and maneuver, the enemy. The American people expected no less from us. Today the current Commandant speaks like Mr. Rogers in french. He and his predecessor denuded the Corps of its armor, artillery, engineers and 1/3 of the infantry. They allowed US Navy to take the floating stock that carries the most powerful fighting force across the seas to a level in which it is at best 30% ready to go to sea. All these retired talking head retirees are a disgrace to their services. They know better. News flash, one morning the American public and the world writ large will wake to hear and see two Gerald R. Ford class nuclear powered aircraft carriers sinking at the waterline, the covering surface force vessels burning and sinking and a Marine ARG/MEU half sunk and in shambles. You think the NEO at Harmid Karzai International Airport was a shit show? You ain't seen nothing yet. You can count on the military brass to do one thing when the carriers are sinking. Blame everyone including the American public for THEIR failure. So, long answer to a short question of the ratio of generals to enlisted? Too many.
Excellent comment!
Have a sister-in-law whose family grew up in Refugio, which is where Joe Galloway grew up.
After the book and movie came out Joe was in Refugio for a book signing. She went back home to attend and got me an autograph copy of the book.
For those who only saw the movie you must get the book to read “the rest of the story”.
Most “We the People” do not appreciate what our young men have done for our country through out it’s history.
Our current military leaders are very disappointing.
Not "disappointing", "disgusting"
LIKE
When SGM Plumley said "Prepare to defend yourselves" at Ia Drang Joe Galloway got right in there pitching to aid LTC Moore's troopers. RIP, Mr. Galloway.
I don't even know much about the "leaders" and even I know they're "disappointing" and "disgusting."
"Both Mike Wallace and Peter Jennings stated that they would not warn the GIs." Did these idiots think the VC weren't going to shoot them as well as the Soldiers and Marines? Our "esteemed" media is not a friend to anyone in uniform and the generals seem to be more concerned about their press clippings or preparing for that lucrative job in the defense industry after retirement than doing the job we expect. Yes, the grunts are well aware of this lousy situation.
former SSG Infantry
USA
Oh my God !!! Yes. There it is !!!
An actual journalist just mentioned this as a legitimate topic...
"What the hell are they doing in underground bases? I’ve seen so much evidence of that I know they exist. What history are they hiding? What is going on in their reverse engineering of alien craft and technology? That is OURS. WE PAID FOR IT."
There. You've seen it. I did not imagine it. An actual experienced journalist just expressed exactly what many of us were thinking is a fully legitimate topic of inquiry as it has been
FOR ABOUT THE LAST EIGHTY F(uncontrollable expletive, apologies)~g years !!!
The rest of her article explains how the cozy relation which exists between the, what shall we call them rather than dignify them with the name of a once great profession...ah yes, here it is,
the JERKALISTS, and the military subvertstablishment can explain the easy disregard, particularly after sworn congressional testimony from experienced Navy pilots, one of them a Top Gun graduate, and from a fully credentialed Pentagon insider and whistleblower.
This stuff, in the era of which Elizabeth speaks where there were real journalists and a healthy distance between the reporters and their subjects, would have been front page news on every major newspaper and network news programs.
But it isn't. despite evidence growing, the story has been ridiculed, disowned, disdained, disregarded even as the defense contractors working within the "gentlemen's coercion" agreements continued to bypass congress and likely the President himself in actions of complete treason against the elected government, actions which, as the long now hourglass of permissability and tolerance slowly runs out, spells doom and jail time for those indulging in the convenience and protection of "defense" largesse and promises of protection and cover. The excuse of "secrecy" does NOT apply to the congress which provides the funding, even with puppets like Rogers in place.
I know! I got excited because I thought Elizabeth was going to discuss the underground bunker subject, what happened?? I reread it to make sure I didn’t miss it but alas it wasn’t there.
We live in the 4th Reich. The demands of the WEF will be followed or the wars will expand. The media and our government demand it. Can anyone explain why the FBI is planning a larger headquarters than the Pentagon?
They misunderstand us.
My biggest fear is that there will be such a weight on the swamp that it could sink like Guam.
Fear?"
The best thing that could possibly happen, for the world, and everyone in it, is for the swamp to "sink like Guam".
Only more so.
Against The Corporate Media arrived today. Many thanks for the head-zup! Will make a great stocking stuffer (if Prez-elect Harris permits Christmas)...
The MIC doesn’t want to win a war. They want an ongoing war. Same as Pharma wants a lifetime treatment, not a cure.
It's the end of establishments when the cheifs outnumber the Indians.
The MICIMATT complex isn't interested in causing wars or winning them. Their entire interest is in making profits from supporting them.